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  1. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Well, Oz, the only postmodern philosophy I am halfway familiar with is poststructuralism. Applying it when interpreting the Bible I would not arrive at questioning the Bible so much, but I would ask myself in how far my interpretation of Biblical texts is influenced by the discourses and...
  2. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Hi there kepha, yes, I’m from a Lutheran/Reformed/United background myself, but I must say the Catholic view on Biblical inerrancy makes much more sense to me than that of some of my fundamentalist fellow-Protestants. And the Catholic view on evolution certainly makes more sense, too. By the...
  3. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Sorry Stan, but this is nonsense. As far as I’m aware of, the Hebrew words Torah/Tanakh are never used in the Greek NT. As for 2 Peter: here again you and I have very different ideas about authorship and date. IMHO by the time that epistle was written Paul's letters were already regarded as...
  4. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    As I’ve already pointed out to Trekson in a previous post, the big difference between the Churchfathers’ view on scripture and the modern 20th century notion of verbal inspiration, that creationists hold, is that the former favoured allegorical interpretations of scripture whereas the latter...
  5. junobet

    Liberals (anti-Christian folk) are illogical and dangerous

    Hi there teamventure, it’s not so much that I disagree with you, but try telling that to some Christian communities in which women still are expected to not wear Jeans and cover their hair. The point I was trying to make was that quite often the Bible is not as plain as we think but needs...
  6. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    You may be glad to hear that all evidence points to it that all in all the Biblical texts have been passed on to us with remarkable accuracy. Most differences between the available manuscripts are minor and utterly irrelevant to the texts' meaning. None of the differences touches any basic...
  7. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    ??? What on earth are you on about, Stan? Do you even realize that you basically agree with the very point I was making here? 2 Tim 3:16 refers to the Old Testament. It can’t possibly refer to the NewTestament, because there was no canonized New Testament yet, when this Epistle was written...
  8. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Sorry, Trekson, but I found this article utterly unconvincing. It starts off with nonsensical assertions about 2 Tim. 3:16 and doesn’t take note of the fact that there was no Biblical canon yet when this Epistle was written. (This Epistle’s intent in the discussions of its time was to assert...
  9. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Trekson, are you sure you are conducting this conversation in the gracious manner Scripture demands? Because I don’t think you are. Of course that may just be another case of two people interpreting the same texts in very different ways. Please note that, even though I was asked to be...
  10. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Sorry OzPen, but the only red herring I see is you accusing me of using a red herring. Frankly, I’m a bit disappointed that you did not bother to answer my questions concerning Mosaic authorship, but never mind. If there is anything you want me to comment on in your post that I have not yet...
  11. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Trekson, when I tried to remind you of Luke 6:31, I did not do it so much because I myself felt offended, but in view of the very many eminent Biblical scholars who teach in my home-town’s university and take a very active and enriching role in the local church-life. You reject their part in the...
  12. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    I’m afraid you’ve fallen for poor scholarship well and proper if you seriously think Moses wrote the Pentateuch. In the dry world of academic Biblical studies that is a view that’s well beyond theological conservatism: it’s stone age. Of course you can come up with scholars in support of any...
  13. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Stan, Surely you are aware that Christianity is a world-religion. Your poll is only for the US, which happens to be the heartland of modern-day creationism. On a worldwide level there are 2.4 billion Christians, 1.2 billion of which are Catholic. The Catholic Church supports theistic...
  14. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    There is no oxymoron, OzPen. There’s are difference between knowing and being very certain. I just wish those “Bible-believing” Christians had the humility to see that difference. Maybe then they’d approach the Bible with more questions than pre-conceived answers. If there was compelling...
  15. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Trekson, how would you like it if somebody accused you of lacking the Holy Spirit because you happen to have “a different look on Genesis”? Please remember that the church at large has never been anti-intellectual – quite the contrary - and that intellect is very much a gift of the Holy Spirit...
  16. junobet

    Republicans voting for Hillary?

    The only time I ever see the word “Anti-Christ” being used in the Bible is in the Epistles of John, where it refers to people spreading the false teaching that Christ did not come in the flesh. I doubt any of your current candidates for presidency is much of a docetist. If you want to use the...
  17. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Hi there Stan, I’m afraid you neither understood my question nor the article that you linked. I am not that interested in the finer nuances between Young Earth Creationism and Old Earth Creationism. From my point of view both are almost equally bizarre. Like most Christians living in the 21th...
  18. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    I know that I know nothing, but I am very much certain that Moses did not write the Pentateuch. You’d hardly write of yourself in the third person nor could you write about your own death. Also you’d stick to one creation story rather than giving two different stories. For the most part the...
  19. junobet

    Republicans voting for Hillary?

    And when that lunatic Trump gets hold of the red button it well happen that all of us die, unborn babies and heterosexual Christians included.
  20. junobet

    A Different Look at Genesis

    Well Trekson, I respect your beliefs, even though I don’t share all of them. To begin with I think that Augustine makes a pretty good case for the assumption that eternity is not just a long, long, never-ending time, but no time at all. To me “nothing” means just that: no time, no space, no...