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Go for it. I wonder why some cannot see that another 'just a man' could not possibly die for the sins of mankind when scripture plainly teaches that every single human being born is born sinful. So debate away, but you don't really understand the cross or sin IMO if that is your stand.

Interesting reaction. I guess you didn't refer to my prior posts. FYI, I never stated you could keep me out of heaven. However, according to much of the teaching of your affiliate church, I would not be considered a Christian. But I guess that's another story. Cherry picking verses does not...

You are not making sense. Jesus even told Nicodemus that a person must be born again...that is, believe in Him...Jesus...and God said the same thing in the book of John, chapter 3, verse 16. So that is erroneous now? So infants are saved by water at the decision of their parents? The Bible...

LOL! So you are my judge now? wondering who died and gave you that job.......just refer to my prior posts if you have difficulty understanding I have noticed that certain individuals seem to think that they have the authority to excommunicate others from what they believe is the truth Don't...

The Bible indicates that those who deny Christ are of the spirit of anti-Christ. That is not a mistake I care to make. The JW's can play with words all day long...still won't make them true.

THIS ^^^^^^ A hint? Is there a 'hint' of Jesus dying for us or is it plain and easy enough for a child, not an infant because they cannot even lift their little heads without help, to understand. Infant baptism is a tradition...not a doctrine of scripture. The responsible person does not...

Well at least you admit that infant baptism is not in the Bible. That's a step in the right direction ! Are you inferring that Jesus baptized infants? One can only be saved when they make a personal DECISION to accept Jesus as their Savior. An infant cannot make decision and the parents...

Or, you can be so focused on the teaching of a certain church, that you do not ever understand that the teaching is not in scripture. I quoted from an online article...and it stands...Paul was using an allegorical explanation to make a point. We are allowed to actually read the Bible ourselves...

SELENE: I didn't see 'it' because 'it' isn't there. How a doctrine of infant baptism can be formed from Jesus baptism in the Jordan is the real question IMO. We receive the Holy Spirit at salvation and some believe there is another infilling having to do with empowerment for service for...

Interesting, but I have not ever seen this in scripture. I guess people can believe all kinds of things and that results in all kinds of beliefs. That does not make a certain belief Christian. It is my concern that this particular doctrine is extra biblical and while it may satisfy those who...

Hi Selene I am not responding to your post in particular. I am responding to the notion of Jerusalem being anything other than what scripture identifies it as. I agree with Angelina, if that helps you to understand my take on things in this thread. Thanks

and vice versa I'm sure. You need a lesson in basic manners. Christian manners. You are not making any sense which is what usually happens when a person gets angry and wants to 'prove' someone else wrong even at the cost of their witness for Christ. I'm not the desperate. You just go ahead...

OK...you must have gone to Harvard Divinity if you think you can twist what I said and then rest your case. You do not seem able to acknowledge that I did not write what you say I wrote. You have a preconceived notion of what you think I am saying and you are incorrect. You just have it...

Um....I looked it up oline because, and don't take this personally (although that might be hard), but some of the responses are as clear as mud. And aspen, you have beaten a path around the bush so much I am dizzy...LOL!...I think you appear to be uncomfortable with what some appear to be...

Wow. You obviously have no proper understanding of scripture as I basically only posted scripture. No need to try and insult. That, is what is not Christian. There is only ONE God and YOU do not get to say YOUR God is the only God. A Christian understands that there may be difference of...

Really Pelaides? Everything is documented...the claims of JW's in their magazines are not supported by scripture so why would I use scripture. The point being made is the constant revision of false claims. These are not opinions, which, in fact, I think you know. These, are actually the...

Post 9 anyhows...I'd still like better understandig? otherwise, this makes no sense...at least to me...enlighten me please

ummmm......going to disagree Alan God chose Abram (later Abraham) Moses David all the OT prophets and on and on For the LORD has chosen Jacob to be his own, Israel to be his treasured possession. Psalm 135:4 In the NT we read that we have been chosen: But you are a chosen people, a royal...

It's my understanding it's an allegory but I am not necessarily understanding that from some of the posts here? I mean, mother is being capitalized. Can someone please explain just how this is being interpreted? Thanks

Yes I agree with being a member of the church...that is, the body of Christ as well as follower. I'm not following on the 'mother' doctrine...I guess it's a doctrine? Thanks again