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  1. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    I don't read it like that. The fall was required and was an essential part of God's amazing plan. Why put a tree of knowledge in the garden and tell them not to eat its fruit? Does God not want us to know good and evil? In order to be in His image we must have that knowledge. Adam was sent...
  2. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    Exactly. God made mankind first and later an individual man called Adam and a woman. After the fall, the man called his wife Eve because became the mother of all living. Before the fall mankind was just a species of animal that God decided to make into His image. That plan is now coming to fruition.
  3. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    How can Genesis 1:27 be talking about Adam? Adam was one man, that verse specifically says He made THEM male and female.
  4. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    I think you're getting mixed up with Genesis 5:3
  5. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    Oh I see, the very verse we have been discussing all this time and I think refers to the outcome of a prophesy not yet completed.
  6. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    That's most appreciated, rest assured I will be doing the same for you.
  7. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    Why would you think so? Maybe the KJV translators got it wrong or missed that point or even wanted to give the false impression that man was made in the image of God. It seems a rather circular argument to say that the modern translators must have conspired to give a false impression that those...
  8. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    I've glanced though it and I think I accept all that, I don't see how it proves that man is yet in His image though.
  9. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    You say "Of course we are" (in the image of God ?) and then say we are in the image of Adam so are we in God's image or Adam's? Forgive my lack of understanding.
  10. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    Do you mean to imply that the ESV translators meant it was poetic rather than the original text? Check it in the NIV as well, it's similar. I have considered contacting Crossway who are the publishers of the ESV but I haven't got around to it yet. Maybe I will try if I can get no answer here.
  11. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    I think you need to read my previous posts.
  12. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    That can't possibly be correct in my opinion precisely because we are not in the image of God. If you can prove we are in His image you may change my mind. 2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one...
  13. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    I didn't mean to insinuate that, I know that there is no one who knows everything and I only come here to discuss things and present my unusual take on things. I seek discussion and debate and I hope to be shown where I am right and more importantly, wrong. I have copies of both the ESV and KJV...
  14. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    If God has already rested why did Jesus, when He was accused of breaking the law by healing on the Sabbath, say "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work" John 5:17. The fall was an essential part of God's amazing plan and was required to make Eve the "mother of all living" Genesis 3:20.
  15. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    That's what I'm asking you. You're the one claiming (if I am not mistaken) that the KJV is the perfect or best translation and all others are corrupt. That being the case, the fact that 1:27 is poetic must not be relevant. As a matter of fact I think it is highly relevant. Are we created in the...
  16. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    No. See my previous post.
  17. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    I'm talking about the poetic nature of 1:27. The ESV shows this with the formatting of the script, the KJV doesn't include any reference to this. Why not, isn't it important?
  18. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    You've missed the main difference though. Was this intentional? The KJV omits a key that may unlock an important door. Can you not see it?
  19. strobe

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    How about comparing Genesis 1:26-27 in the KJV and ESV? It seems reasonable to consider the very first chapter of the Bible after all. Can anyone explain the difference?
  20. strobe

    Sabbath Issues

    You don't believe the Bible, you believe your interpretation of it and you try to recruit members by telling them they have to accept your word or they aren't Christians.