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Then you only agree with them that do say God is torturing them. Job was mistaken about that too. I didn't think I got it wrong. You're not a serious enough person to bother with.

Sorry, but I have needed a slap across the face to wake up also. Just recently I got a good one, and had to back off and repent. On paper, not physically. That hasn't happened since my Mom did 40 years ago.

Well, God bless you too. I could see you were only speaking in rhetorical terms about 'God torturing people'. But that is an accusation that I used to consider as an unbeliever myself. It's just a deceptive devise of the devil for sinful man to accuse God of being worse than himself. It's an old...

So, your opinion is no more that God is a torturer. But now only have an opinion the nature of torture. Good. :vgood: The only comment you've made was about God is a torturer, now you say you have a comment about the nature of torture. I don't, because you've changed it. Your opinion was God...

When you quote any Scripture saying God tortures, God did torture, God shall torture, etc...then you quote the truth. Until then you're just quoting your own opinion about the God of Scripture. You don't, because you don't only care about what He says in the Bible, because you think your own...

Correct. The devil tortures people, not God. The God of the Bible is not the devil.

But He does not torture them. By your judgment any just judge sending murdering rapists to be executed is executing them. You know why there are them that will go into everlasting punishment? Because they want to. They would rather be in eternal torment, than be with the Lord in love and...

Does the God of the Bible torture people or any creature He creates and makes?

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment. Now, you add to Scripture that God tortures anyone. Nothing here says God tortures, nor in Revelation. Your accusation against God is false and you are lying about His written word. Jesus Christ does not torture anyone but comes to save men's...

Here is something that at least approaches the idea of the dead man living again on earth to deceive the nations, rather than to lead them to God. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the...

Ok, I see your point. Unfortunately that's only true for those like you with conscience toward God. Reprobation from God is without conscience toward God at all. Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto...

I don't agree God tortures any creature He makes, because the Bible does not say He does. I disagree with those who accuse Him of it by way of suggestion. God is not a torturer of any angel or man, and to suggest it is a hateful lie against Him and His written word, that world has been doing for...

And you're the only one talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and God torturing people. Show In Scripture where it says God tortures people, then I'll believe it. Until then your suggestion that He does, is a false accusation against Him and His written word.

What do you mean? How so? Once again, what are you talking about?

Once again your accusations against the God of the Bible show you have no faith in Him nor His word. Show the Scripture that says God tortures anyone. That is a false accusation against the Lamb of God, that is not written nor said by God in Scripture. Neither does the God of the Bible, much...

I don't see any quoted Scripture contradicting itself here. All I see is your interpretation of Scripture trying to say so. The interpretation is false, not the prophesy Scripture. Nor subdued. And so once again your interpretation is false. Now if you show prophecy with the same little and...

Of course I'll never believe your OSAS stuff, and frankly I was wondering why I was bothering again to look at it, until I found you have something new! Frankly, I didn't think you people could come up with some new twist or turn on Scripture to justify doing unrighteousness, but here you have...

Maybe if someone doesn't know the difference between being sanctified in the blood of the Lamb or not, then they can't be expected to teach about it accurately, can they?