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Ahhhh, so the visuals are a factor as well as limited words? hmmmmm!

You personally don't understand yet in an attempt to gain traction you use the words 'we' or 'anyone'. The fact that you don't see the terms, 'objective reality' and 'paradigms' as having any bearing with truth seekers reveals the very thing I stated in my reply to you in post #37. You conflate...

You personally don't understand but in an attempt to gain traction you use the words 'we' or 'anyone'. The fact that you don't see the terms, 'objective reality' and 'paradigms' as having any bearing with truth seekers reveals the very thing I stated in my reply to you in post #37. You conflate...

When might we see smoke? When Jesus is obscured by a multitude of tradition.

I guess that's what many folk think about many of the utterances of Jesus. The disconnect arises from dissimilar paradigms. It's like telling the indigenous that their dreamtime stories (which are foundational for them) have no semblance with objective reality. Because of your unwillingness to...

And so it is with understanding all that is written in the OT. .....Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah to mention a few.

The Bible Is Built on the Rock of Mathematics Jesus is The Rock. The Rock that gushes water in a dry and weary land. The Rock upon which the Church is built. The Rock that becomes a mountain and fills the whole Earth. The Rock which ensures the anchor holds. The Rock that the house which...

As usual, you didn't hear the answer!

Make the effort and listen to or watch some episodes on the ReDiscovering God link in my signature below Pet. Hope is just around the corner.

What makes a doctrine false? Selfishness!...it disables the understanding and dims the vision.

I don't believe God orchestrates any evil. In John 10:10 Jesus says, 'The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.'......and we know who the thief is.

Awwww, proving or not proving; the mindset is wearisome. There is no life and no hope just a continual rolling out of ego.......and why is this type of trajectory attractive and active? Is it not because the glory of the one and only has not captured the imagination? And yes, AJ is steeped in...

have you forgotten, prediction does not equal causation?

God will bring ruin?? Do you really believe God causes these events?

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Yes.....and that is what God does in every case. He allows the stiff-necked and the recalcitrant to reap what they sowed but not without first trying to woo them again and again....even protecting them from the consequences coming down the pike. Another example would be the fall of Jerusalem...

It hinges on 'he gave them over'. It means, all this time he was protecting them from the consequences of their choices but they insisted on their choices so God gave them over to its consequences. In other words, their choices resulted in the troubles (depravity, lack of insight and relational...

I think you have it backwards Behold. Firstly, God doesn't need blood. He can make barrels of it if that is the case. It is men who want bllood ie, killing, aka the cessation of life. God forgives because that's his nature (quite different to yours and mine....we want payment....either revenge...

Has anyone bothered to look at Romans 1:18-32...and hear it? From the posts submitted I doubt it. Romans 1: 18-32 opens a way of understanding God's wrath that cuts clean across the angry paradigm traditionally used.

Oi to you SnC