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  1. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Welcome... You are fine. Matthias and I are just having a high brow discussion about the translation of the Hebrew. He is having a difficult time understanding how in this case a hebrew verb "plural in majesty and sovereignty" word is always translated as a singular noun in English....but...
  2. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    "Gods is one". That's literally what the Shema says. Why is that so difficult? English is the worst receptor language for Hebrew imaginable.
  3. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Eloh....Elohim Cherub....cherubim Seraph....seraphim Melach....Melahim.
  4. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    What do you want? I don't go to temple.... And I'm not Greek either. But I understand original people who wrote the scriptures. That's called anthropological studies. And I'm what they refer to as an originalist when it comes to scriptures. Because I believe that a person (inspired by...
  5. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Shema yisrael Adonai eloheinu Adonai echad. [barukh shem kevod malkhuto le'olam va'ed.] ve'ahavta et Adonai eloheykha bekhol-levavkha u'vekhol nafshekha u'vekhol me'odekha. ve'hayu hadevarim ha'eileh asher anokhi metzavekha haiyom al-levavekha. Like I was saying. "Elohim" is a descriptive...
  6. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Ummmm That literally is the first line of the Shema. Try again The Jews would say that he read it correctly. The Bible was written in 4 languages on the other side of the planet to a very Caste based society which has very little resemblance to today's modern Westernized culture. I highly...
  7. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Who are you talking about? English is full of nouns.... However, we shouldn't try nailing jello. Scriptural "names" are not tags like Tom, Dick, & Harry....they are descriptive titles. ALWAYS.
  8. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Hebrew language does NOT contain a bunch of nouns. It is a verb based metaphoric language and has a pictographic and phonetic alphabet. We speak and tend to think in English which is a noun based language. Every verb metaphor translated is made into a noun....but it just is not. Not even...
  9. JohnDB

    What does it mean for Jesus did not come to destroy the law. But rather, Jesus came to fulfil the law

    What most do not understand is that the Hebrew language is a verb based metaphoric language. They really do not have nouns like English does. So When we come to the 4th Commandment....Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy. Most people do not understand what it really is saying. It is a...
  10. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    There's a lot of people who claim Christ but don't know the first thing about what it means to be a Christian. They don't go to church or if they do its something akin to Joel Olsteens Church where they do not even mention God or Jesus on a regular basis. (It really is not part of their...
  11. JohnDB

    Barna Poll: Most Americans - Including Church Members - Reject the Trinity

    Barna releases and promotes the most Christian hating surveys of any opinion institution. It has in fact created the imfamous push polls. And taught others how not to do polling. I take anything they say with little regard. That being said, If you do not believe in the Trinity God the...
  12. JohnDB

    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    And it's based on scripture....which has a large/macro concept it's explicitly designed to tell people. I'm asking "what does it tell us outside of the micro view of half of one verse?"
  13. JohnDB

    Musk, Johnson, Vance, Lee, other GOP say Russia will win the war in Ukraine, impossible to lose, time to end US billions to Ukraine

    look, I believe in keeping promises. There's a treaty with Ukraine that we would help them should Russia attack. Granted, Ukraine exacerbated the situation....and made Russia speed up its timetable and go to war. Neither party is an innocent. AND No one wins at War. Everyone...
  14. JohnDB

    Houston energy company to build largest new refinery in half a century

    The refineries offshore are not the same as land based refineries. The oil rig decks offshore just crack off the gasoline and diesel. That's all. (RBOB....LEARN THAT LITTLE NUGGET as well as WTI and Brent and the difference) That stuff is the profit margin usually. The remaining bitumen is...
  15. JohnDB

    Houston energy company to build largest new refinery in half a century

    There are 2 AI and multitudes of job offers I've turned down that say otherwise.
  16. JohnDB

    Does your church still use hymnals?

    No kidding right? But that's what Wednesday nights and practice early before services are for. Someone is supposed to be duplicating slides and getting them all in order and set for flawless execution. Because the AV booth should never detract and cause a point of focus away from the services...
  17. JohnDB

    Houston energy company to build largest new refinery in half a century

    Actually they do....I know right it's kinda odd. But apparently these oil rigs that pump out the oil in the gulf refine off the gasoline and diesel first then the remaining bitumen is sold as well. These platforms are huge these days....billions of dollars to produce. Most land based...
  18. JohnDB

    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    It's not that whatsoever. Each piece of papyrus was 9-13 obols per scroll. (A-4 in width...lg paperback size sheets but longer) 6 obols to the denarius....which a drachma was 95%-85% of a denarius. Parchment went for 10-20 Denarius per same size sheet as papyrus. John would not have had...
  19. JohnDB

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    When we are in Heaven...just like the Angels, we too will become no longer bound by time. Look at Gabriel. First we see of him he is talking to Daniel, then he is talking to Zacharias....over 600 years later.