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I have addressed all those verses so many times, but your ‘programming’ is worse than you think mine is. None of them say what you think they do, as a thorough study of the Bible will reveal. Jesus never once said he was God with a capital “g”. Original language word studies will completely...

There are a few who are not “following the discussion”…. There is no contradiction. Once more…. How are the elect like the angels? They become spirit beings who are taken to an entirely different realm to take up the role of “kings and priests” in the heavenly kingdom. (Rev 20:6) Angels are...

You’re still not acknowledging the difference between the two terms…..they are not interchangeable. You initially state that they (A&E) would become “immortal” if they ate from the tree of life, and yet these are mortal humans who rely on all the external means that God supplied on this earth to...

Good grief! Another expert on JW’s…..ignorance does not ever result in telling the truth.…just a twisted version of things to give a false impression. History repeats you know…..and for all the same reasons. Human nature loves to jump to their own conclusions to make themselves feel...

Please tell me how I am contradicting myself…..there are two different terms with two different meanings that apparently escape the comprehension of some of the responders here who think that they are all going to heaven and will therefore all become immortals. That was never God’s purpose for...

Let me see if I can explain it more simply……? First of all, who are the “saints”? These are Christ’s elect or chosen ones….so what role are they chosen for? Rev 20:6 tells us…. “Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but...

Jesus taught us to pray….…so what did he tell us were the most important things to pray for? Its the most repeated prayer in this world, yet not many actually stop and consider what his words mean, and what the order indicates from Jesus perspective, as the most important. Can we take it...

LOL…the one that says ‘if you eat of this fruit that I have claimed as my own property’….”YOU WILL DIE” What does Gen 3:22-24 say?… ”Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life...

You’re not looking. The life God gave the first humans was conditional…..it would be “everlasting” or perpetual, as long as they obeyed his directive not to eat the fruit of just one tree. Death could only come through disobedience. The life God lives is totally different and distinct to any...

No, it is in complete harmony with them. Those resurrected to spirit Iife in heaven, enjoy the same kind of everlasting existence as the angels do. They will need no external means of life support. Immortals cannot die….not even God can kill them….so they have already proven their faith unto...

That scripture in a little more context…. “For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have...

You are completely missing the point. Everlasting life is everlasting if you do nothing to terminate the conditions. Like the electricity supplied to your house….if you pay the bill you keep the supply…if you default, the electricity is cut off. If you keep up your payments the electricity...

Please show me where it says that Jesus raised himself from the dead…..? Acts 2:30-36…after the holy spirit was poured out on the faithful in Jerusalem, as Jesus had promised, Peter said to the Jews concerning King David..…. ”Therefore, being a prophet and knowing that God had sworn an oath to...

Mortals can always die if they disobey…..everlasting life can be terminated if you break the conditions as Adam and his wife did……immortals cannot die…period. There was no natural cause of death stated in Eden.

The difference is important. An immortal cannot die, whereas a mortal can. Everlasting life is conditional in an ongoing way….immortality is not…..it is granted as a one off gift to those whom God has called to rule with his son in heaven. (Rev 20:6) Like humans, Angels can keep living as long...

What is concerning about God being able to eliminate rebels from his universal family?….as the Creator of life, he also has the right to dictate its terms. His terms in Eden were clear….obey me and live…or disobey me and die. Those were the only choices they had. Adam was told that at death...

Yes, it’s a sad indictment on today’s world, where death is preferable to living for so many who are suffering without any real help or solutions, and especially for those in the grip of mental illness now in plague proportions, and manifested in so many ways…..often exacerbated by drugs and...

What I think is being missed here on this thread, that has descended into childish name calling and gaslighting….is that there are two forms of life that the Bible speaks of that never end…. 1) “Immortality” (“athanasia”) literally means living forever under “the power of an indestructible...

What then is the problem with those who deny Sola Scriptura? If Paul stated 2 Timothy 3:15-16….. ”All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in uprightness, so that the man of God may be proficient and equipped for good work of...

If Adam and Eve were not real, then the whole point of Jesus coming into the world as “the last Adam” makes no sense. He died because of what the first Adam did to all of us as his children. (Rom 5:12) I never suggested that everything in the Bible is literal, but when Jesus gave a parable he...