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  1. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Shall we plug our ears to this?… 1 Cor 14 21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
  2. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Actually, I have 62 videos in the lesson that deal with every single biblical doctrine. Instead of plugging your ears and closing your eyes, you should check it out. Please like and subscribe.
  3. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Throw out the baby with the bathwater?
  4. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    In chapter 14 paul is saying that he that speaks in an unknown tongue, which is a tongue, not known to anyone, speaks not onto men but unto God. You should try speaking to God in unknown tongues sometime.
  5. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Yes, you are right. Whether or not you speak an unknown tongues or various known languages that are supernaturally gifted. Either one is evidence that you have the Holy Ghost. Having none of them is no evidence that you have the Holy Ghost.
  6. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I am not trying to sell Penecostal concepts, I’m trying to explain first century church concepts. Vast difference.
  7. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Correct, none of them spoke in an unknown tongue. They spoke in various known languages, which is one of the nine gifts of the Holy Ghost. Here is a video that helps you to understand that. This has no bearing on chapter 14 when paul explains unknown tongues. Lesson 7- Page 1
  8. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Lesson 7- Page 1 I created a YouTube channel, and this page can help you to understand how it differs between the nine gifts of the spirit and the unknown tongues that were supported by paul two chapters later.
  9. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    1 Cor 14 21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. No thanks?
  10. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Actually, it is true. People tell you you have the Holy Ghost without you or them having any type of evidence that you have received it. Some people will believe anything. I really would rather know with evidence that I have it then to be told, I have it and not have it. Isaiah said that they...
  11. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Indeed, they are the same as chapter 12. They are not the same as chapter 14 though. Unknown tongues is the evidence to a person that they have received the Holy Spirit. It is also evidence to those around them that they have the Holy Spirit. Known tongues is an evangelistic tool that comes with...
  12. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    You are correct. He does not understand the difference between unknown tongues as evidence from known tongues as various known languages. He thinks tongues is tongues.
  13. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    If I may, those particular 120 were gifted in one of the 9 gifts of the Spirit immediately. Driver's kinds of tongues per 1 Cor 12. Precisely what God needed for them to kick off the new church.
  14. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That has nothing to do with speaking in tongues. Nor does it have to do with praying with your human spirit as your understanding is unfruitful.
  15. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Yes, I have been practicing this concept for decades. It is the Holy Spirit using my human spirit to pray things that I cannot utter in my carnal thinking.
  16. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    There is something called praying with the human spirit by the assistance of the Holy Spirit. Two different spirits. A human spirit enabled by the Holy Spirit.
  17. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Speaking in unknown tongues is praying WITH the human spirit. If a person doesn’t practice unknown tongues, they don’t pray with the human spirit( with groanings that cannot be uttered). It is human reasoning prayer only.
  18. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    According to first Corinthians 14, praying in the spirit is praying in tongues. He says I pray with the spirit and I pray with understanding also. It’s pretty easy to understand what he’s saying.
  19. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Like I am saying in the statement, we pray this way... 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also:,,, If you only pray with understanding, you are...