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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Amen. So simple, no baptism no repentance.
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Any jew that refused to be baptized by John did not submit to Gods will. Show me how any of them that refused John's baptism repented?
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    That's right. And the point that needs to be understood is if anyone did not do the act of obedience by submitting to John's baptism did they really repent? You could not repent if you did not obey the command to be baptized. Cant separate obeying God from repentance. Cant separate saving...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Yes, you still don't understand. None of my brethren that are good Bible students believe what you claim we teach. You could just ask what I believe instead of telling me what I teach.
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    No exception. You don't understand what our position is. Folks get this wrong and misrepresent what we say sometimes intentionally or unintentionally.
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Here you are trying to teach true repentance does not require the baptism. That is what makes no sense. How could anyone say the Jews repented if they did not get baptized? The two must go together. No one would claim the Pharisees that refused to be baptized by John repented. Only those who...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    You just admitted that the Jews could have true repentance without baptism. When are you going to learn that you cannot seperate obeing Gods commandments from true faith or true repentance. It's a silly argument to claim the Jews repentance did not require baptism in order to have truly...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Amen, love your honesty. And by you speaking the truth, John's baptism is spiritual(heaven) not physical(from man) as Dan's religion teaches.
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    No, this is not my belief so you dont know what you are talking about.
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    If they did not get baptized by John then did they repent? You cant separate the Jews repentance from John's baptism. No repentance no forgiveness of sins. Refusal of being baptized was an unrepentant heart. Since you separate the Jews salvation from John's water baptism that means those who...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Dan here is attempting to teach me that water baptism of John is natural not spiritual. Also baptism in the name of Jesus Acts 2:38 would also be natural baptism not spiritual baptism. This shows Dan's ignorance of the Scriptures. This is why, a major reason why, he thinks water baptism does...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    I'm not confused at all on Biblical faith. Saving faith is an action. Dan's faith is dead. It has no obdient works. Hebrews 3:18-19, - and to whom sware he that they should not enter into His rest but to those who did not obey - so we see they could not enter in because of unbelief What is...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Personal definition? It's not my fault you are ignorant of faith and works in the Bible. These accusations are from a position of ignorance not knowledge.
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Alright, you think Jesus and John the Baptizer taught no water baptism for the forgiveness of sins. That's your religions attempt to get all,works out of salvation. Cant be done as faith itself is a work, John 6:28-29 Mark 1:4, - John did baptize in the wilderness and preach the baptism of...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    I appreciate your honesty.
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    First you tried to prove with the new testament that prayers for the dead is Biblical. Now you are changing your story and claiming you did not claim prayers for the dead is in the new testament. Very dishonest. This is foolishness. Listen very carefully to BreadofLife's logic Since the Bible...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    I'm not excluding the Jews or even faithful gentiles that died during the old testament. I simply was not discussing them. The new testament teaches that physical Israel, those of ethnic Hebrew origin. Are no longer Gods chosen people. All those saved under the new testament gospel of Jesus...
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    The Doctrines of Grace

    Acts 20:28, - therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers to shepard the church of God which Jesus purchased with His own blood Jesus had not shed His blood before the cross , therefore His church had not yet been established. Only...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Here again you contradict yourself by admitting there is something man must do to be saved. You condemn anything man has to do. You demand Jesus does it all and we are not trusting in Jesus if we have to do something to be saved. Jesus' work on the cross paid it all. Nothing else needs to be...
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    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Right, so you contradict your man made doctrine once again by admitting there is something man must do to be saved. You're making a mess out of the Scriptures and digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole Acts 16:30-33, - and brought them out and said Sirs what must I do to be saved - and...