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  1. TrevorHL

    Crucifixion Question

    Greetings FinnleyGraves, Firstly, I believe that Jesus died as our representative, not our substitute. Adam sinned and he was sentenced to return to the dust because of his sin, and God also passed this sentence on to his descendants. God gave birth to Jesus, the Son of God, not a Deity, a...
  2. TrevorHL

    Q for JW- KIEW?

    Greetings David in NJ, The Angel of Yahweh who speaks and acts on behalf of the One God, Yahweh, God the Father. No man has seen nor can see God. Kind regards Trevor
  3. TrevorHL

    Q for JW- KIEW?

    Greetings David in NJ, Yahweh was in heaven, but he spoke to Moses through his angel. Exodus 3:1–2 (KJV):1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. 2 And the...
  4. TrevorHL

    Q for JW- KIEW?

    Greetings again David in NJ, By believing the Gospel of the Kingdom of God and the Name of Jesus Christ and identifying with his representative death and resurrection by baptism in water for the forgiveness of sins Acts 8:5-6,12. To maintain this status, we must then live the crucified and...
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    Q for JW- KIEW?

    Greetings again David in NJ, No. Kind regards Trevor
  6. TrevorHL

    Q for JW- KIEW?

    Greetings Berean, It will be interesting to see how you elaborate on this aspect of GRACE. The following seems to indicate that GRACE is bestowed on those who believe. Romans 3:21-26 (KJV): 21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the...
  7. TrevorHL

    Q for JW- KIEW?

    Greetings David in NJ, Jesus when he returns will save the faithful who are alive from the first death and grant them immortality. Jesus will save the faithful that are already dead by raising them out of death and will grant them immortality. Daniel 12:1-3 (KJV): 1And at that time shall...
  8. TrevorHL

    Q for JW- KIEW?

    Greetings Brakelte, This is a long running thread, but I will answer your post directly. Jesus suffered and died the human death that was passed on to Adam and his descendants, not the second death. He was resurrected from this death. Those who believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus...
  9. TrevorHL

    The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

    Greetings again PS95, I consider that this is the destiny of the vast majority of mankind. They return to the dust forever. Kind regards Trevor
  10. TrevorHL

    The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

    Greetings PS95, Perhaps I do not understand the JW view on this, but the wages of sin is death. Death is the payment for sin. This is NOT forgiveness of our sins, but the outworking of our sins. This does not in any way guarantee a resurrection. Romans 6:19–23 (KJV): 19 I speak after the...
  11. TrevorHL

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Greetings again WPM and Spiritual Israelite, Here we go again, patting each other on the back to give you some encouragement to support your shallow arguments. Do you both feel insecure? I agree. This is a very shallow assessment of what a normal Premil believes, perhaps especially my...
  12. TrevorHL

    For what reason was Jesus to be called the Son of God?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane, My first encounter with JWs was at my parents' front door when I was 16. In that discussion I disagreed with one of their views, but was impressed by what was expressed by the senior member on one issue. As a result of what he said I walked about 1 mile from Bexley...
  13. TrevorHL

    For what reason was Jesus to be called the Son of God?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane and Greetings David Lamb, The role of firstborn speaks of status, not time. Isaac supplanted Ishmael, Jacob supplanted Esau. Psalm 89:25–29 (KJV): 25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers. 26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father...
  14. TrevorHL

    For what reason was Jesus to be called the Son of God?

    Greetings again Aunty Jane, I do not accept his pre-existence. His conception was the start of his life. I consider that the Wise Woman "Wisdom" in Proverbs 8 and note it is "she", is a personification of God's wisdom and character. I consider the "us" and "our" of Genesis 1:26 is the One God...
  15. TrevorHL

    For what reason was Jesus to be called the Son of God?

    Greetings PS95 and Matthias, I have been following this thread and did not see the need to get involved, but then noticed that I came in for special mention. To tidy up: Yes, I believe that The Word in John 1:1 is a personification similar to the Wise Woman Wisdom in Proverbs 8 who was with...
  16. TrevorHL

    For what reason was Jesus to be called the Son of God?

    Greetings Matthias, I was very interested in your posts and the references that you were able to cite. I agree with all that you stated except I believe that Jesus is our representative. He opened the way to life by his death and resurrection and we share in this when we identify with his death...
  17. TrevorHL

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Greetings again Truth7t7, Refer again to Matthew 19:28 and 2 Timothy 4:1,6-8. In 1 Corinthians 15:23-24 the Kingdom on earth is established when Jesus returns and the end will occur at the end of this reign when Jesus will deliver the Kingdom to God, the Father: 1 Corinthians 15:24–28 (KJV)...
  18. TrevorHL

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Greetings again WPM, I find the OP very shallow and then the first 8 posts with @Spiritual Israelite you congratulate yourselves. I answered in post #9. Kind regards Trevor
  19. TrevorHL

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Greetings again Scott Downey and Greetings Truth7t7, Please reread this passage again. Egypt and the nations will be participants in and subjects of the 1000 year reign. Jesus' teaching and the apostle's doctrines are in harmony with the OT prophecies, while you prefer to ignore much of the OT...
  20. TrevorHL

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Greetings again Scott Downey, I do not agree with your overall perspective. Please also consider: Zechariah 14:16–19 (KJV): 16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD...