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Greetings again Douggg, The Papacy, and it is a continuation of the Little Horn of Daniel 7 which is different to the Little Horn of Daniel 8. As such I totally disagree with your "five stages" chart. Kind regards Trevor

Greetings again Douggg, That's fine, but I support the Continuous Historic view. This thread is mainly about the 2300, and I did also mention what I consider to be the 1260 year period(s) of Daniel 7. I would be hard pressed to give my opinion of ALL the time periods that you mention, though in...

Greetings Douggg, Your chart appears to be a Futurist only view. I understand that the time periods of Daniel are based upon the day for a year principle, and the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation reveal the Continuous Historic interpretation. You have posted your chart on a number of...

Greetings again Jay Ross, The "treading under foot" is a military term. The taking of Jerusalem is a major necessary first step towards the events leading up to the establishment of the Kingdom. Joel 3:1–2 (KJV): 1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the...

Greetings again Jay Ross, The date that I have given is the transfer from the Medo-Persian Ram to the Grecian Goat in BC 334-333. The difference between the Persians and the Grecians is that the Persians were sympathetic with the religion of the Jews, encouraged their return from Babylon, and...

Greetings again CTK, The Little Horn of Daniel 8 is different to the Little Horn of Daniel 7. The Little Horn of Daniel 7 is the Papacy, while the Little Horn of Daniel 8 is the Eastern Roman Pagan Empire and this Little Horn crucified Jesus and destroyed the Temple in AD 70. Daniel 8:9–14...

Greetings again CTK, Agreed. Disagreed. I understand the little horn is at first the Pagan Roman Empire in the East. Agreed. I have always assumed that "notable ones" are four notable horns. Daniel 8:8 (KJV): Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was...

Greetings Jay Ross, I will hold to the AD 1967 date. There could be other starting and finishing times, but I consider the start in BC 334-333 is the most significant. Jeremiah's prophecy of 70 years had two fulfillments. I do not read about this in the Scripture. My impression of the...

Greetings again CTK, I am not sure how you string all your thoughts together. I understand the main vision of chapter 8 is the overthrow of the Persian Kingdom by the Grecian Kingdom. It then progresses into the Pagan Roman Empire era and the crucifixion of Jesus and then the destruction of the...

Greetings again CTK, Yes, I am willing to reaffirm what I stated, and this is an answer to points 1-3. I consider that the 2300 represents from BC 334-333 the overthrow of the Persian Ram by the Grecian Goat headed up by Alexander the Great to AD 1967 when the Jews regained Jerusalem. Kind...

Greetings again Earburner, I assume you are speaking about #365. No, I have not been fully following this thread and your posts. I am not in a position to unravel all the different views presented and especially your unusual view. I consider the three horns plucked up by the Little Horn of...

Greetings again Earburner., The little horn of Daniel 7 is the Papacy, the little horn of Daniel 8 was the pagan Roman Empire. Kind regards Trevor

Greetings again Brakelite, I am not sure of what you or the SDAs end up with, with this line of thought. Yes, there are many lessons as a result of considering such types as the Passover and the Sin, Trespass, Burnt and Peace Offerings and other aspects of the Law of Moses. All of these...

Greetings again Davy, I appreciate your response, but firstly I notice that you did not directly answer or expound what I asked last: My view of the Antichrist DOES depend upon my understanding of the Little Horn of Daniel 7 and the various details associated with this Little Horn. Yes, this...

Greetings again Brakelite, The SDA view that the cleansing needed to happen in heaven is a strange concept. Jesus suffered crucifixion, death and resurrection and then God exalted Jesus to sit at the right hand of God, in God the Father's Throne. Jesus is already in the Most Holy and this does...

Greetings again Brakelite and Greetings Dougg, I consider that I have a fair assessment of the unusual SDA teaching concerning Daniel 8 and also the burning and the desolation of the earth for the 1000 years, and I received this from personal contact and study, not from any Jesuit source. It...

Greetings Brakelite, It was the Great Disappointment then, and although some changed their mind about 1843, William Miller did not, but died a disappointed man. I find that the SDA or the false prophet EGW's view, which ultimately speaks of the burnt earth and desolate earth for the 1000 years...

Greetings Davy, Yes, I am a historicist and I still support the idea that the Little Horn of the Fourth Roman Beast of Daniel 7 is the Papacy and I consider that the Papacy is the Antichrist who will oppose Christ when Christ returns and when Christ begins to establish the Temple Throne of...

Greetings again ewq1938, I have read ALL your posts. In this thread there are many new and unusual views presented, and this includes some strange ideas from others as well as yours. I consider it more beneficial to state in simple terms what I consider to be the clear teaching of the Bible...

Greetings ewq1938, Daniel 7 depicts the decline and fall of the Roman Empire by the 10 horns. Nevertheless these ten horns are still attached to the fourth beast and are thus still Roman. Kind regards Trevor