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  1. ProDeo

    No one can come to Jesus unless

    I am not raised as an orthodox Jew, I was raised with the Bible. No problem with Jesus.
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    No one can come to Jesus unless

    Written to and about the unbelieving Jews of His time. Imagine if you were a believing Jew in His time in love with the law of Moses. And then there comes a man who calls Himself the Son of God, who forgives sins, who said -- I and the Father are One --, someone who puts your world upside...
  3. ProDeo

    Critical thinking and education is linked to loss of faith

    The evolution believing atheist cannot find God for the same reason a thief cannot find a policeman. -- Kent Hovind
  4. ProDeo

    Trump Moving Too Fast?

    Indeed, no love, not even sympathy for the deeply traumatized, the ones we should love and support the most, just cruel judgement without hearing out her story.
  5. ProDeo

    Forgiveness

    Excellent question, too many variables involved for a (so to say) scientific answer. Variables involved, a top of my head, not meant to be complete : . How deeply is a person hurt? . How many rejections did a person suffer in his life? . How about the self esteem of a person? . How about the...
  6. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    @bdavidc Isaiah 53 and the different translations. I compiled a text file with 3 translations of Isaiah 53 for easy verse by verse comparison. 1. ESV 2011 - modern translation. 2. Septuagint or LXX, 285–247 BC the version used by the early church. 3. Hebrew Bible, 8th/7th centuries BCE –...
  7. ProDeo

    Forgiveness

    Excellent brother! And the negative feelings in time will fade away.
  8. ProDeo

    Forgiveness

    What your president JFK once said, forgive your enemies but never forget their name.
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Not others, only you. Here is a good read. On God’s Wrath Misplaced and Misunderstood Joshua Iss A lot of songs I sing in church have lines like Unfortunately lines like this misunderstand the function of God’s wrath in the atonement: God’s divine wrath has not been poured out yet, and it...
  10. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Wrong again. Matt 20:21 And he said to her, “What do you want?” She said to him, “Say that these two sons of mine are to sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.” Matt 20:22 Jesus answered, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am...
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    The word propitiation is used 4 times in the Bible (Romans 3:25; Hebrews 2:17; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10) Rom 3:25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins...
  12. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Oh boy, we have arrived in the judgement part of an discussion.
  13. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    The word wrath is not in Romans 3:25 Assumption of yours. No wrath in John 18:11, once again you adding to Scripture. Jesus knew what the Father wanted, dying a horrible death on a cross, the cup to drink. Don't add things that aren't there. Both texts have nothing to with the...
  14. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Who crucified Christ? Isn't wasn't God. Get that? Keep that in mind. Who is Jesus? . God the Son. . God the Father together with God the Son created the world --Col 1:6 . Before God created A&E The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. --Rev 13:8 was already decided. . Why is that you...
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. Wrath inside the Godhead is a total different subject and hard to believe. PSA is not in the NT, as far as I know not in the early church...
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    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Assuming you are a Trinity believer, did God punish Himself ? For what? For giving His creatures free will ?
  17. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    I am not a native English speaker, how do we have to understand the word wrath ? 1. Anger 2. Furious anger 3. Rage ?
  18. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    When it's about the cross and what exactly happened between God the Father and God the Son we cannot even fathom and is above my understanding, except what is given to us in Scripture. And the word wrath is not is Isa 53 nor in the NT.
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    Trump Moving Too Fast?

    Dutch companies are flooded by Canadian companies doing business, because of the tariffs. Meanwhile, it's liberation day today, we honor Canada.
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    Trump Moving Too Fast?

    You must have believed Trump when He said Ukraine was the aggressor, but the just signed raw materials deal states that Russia is the aggressor. But tomorrow it can be easily the other way around. You know, large parts of the world are completely done with the West, for centuries the West has...