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  1. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    This is Current for all who believe in Christ today.
  2. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Since you acknowledge 1 & 2 Peter are 'present tense and that it will eventually speak to those in the tribulation................ How is it not possible(according to you) for it to be speaking to believing sanctified saints who are alive today all over the world?
  3. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    Believing Christ is the Rest of God is 'irrelevant' to you..........but saturday is ultra important and required = by law Got it = SDA follows old covenant "sayeth the Lord" and devalues New Covenant "Says the Lord" Same as the jw's and RCC
  4. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    @BarneyFife = this does not please the Lord neither is it true i have shown serious and truthful interest in SDA beliefs and have compared these beliefs to the Holy Scriptures as i always do no matter the denomination. God is calling His People out of Mystery Babylon which many denominations...
  5. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    squirm out of the obvious??? Under the law of Moses saturday sabbath was the obvious and if not adhered to meant death. Can you find the Lord Jesus Christ reinstating this commandment? If you can, please post the scripture from the Gospel or the Apostles - thank you
  6. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    THANK YOU and please lift us UP in prayer because JESUS said "If two or more of you agree....it will be granted". Now we are seeking to agree on the Truth according to the Holy Spirit thru the Holy Scriptures. This pleases God our FATHER
  7. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    Ellen G White says so and you follow her teachings - Yes? God chose me to be in Christ and He never said in His Gospel = saturday sabbath is required for Salvation If you can find it from the Mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ and/or the Apostles please let me know.
  8. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    Actually you just did by not giving a direct answer to the question. PLEASE let me know, from your heart, whether you believe i am lost in sin and apostate for not honoring saturday as the day of rest.
  9. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    Plucking grain and fruit is harvesting on a small scale If saturday sabbath was cruicial to salvation the Lord would of sinned and He would be teaching His disciples and us to sin. YES, Jesus broke the sabbath = on Purpose Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the...
  10. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    @BarneyFife i want to hear from you on this question Do you believe, according to the dead Ellen G. White, that David in NJ is apostate and not Saved because i do not adhere to saturday sabbath? @Brakelite and @quietthinker = i would like to know from both of you as well
  11. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    ABSOLUTELY = Just as i keep pointing to from the Holy Scriptures The Lord Jesus Christ clarified three Truths of the 7th day under the law of Moses. a.) It is lawful to do "Good" on the saturday sabbath of the law of Moses = love thy neighbor and do not wait for sunday b.) the Lord Jesus...
  12. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    that is your own take Listen to these Living Words To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all...
  13. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Peter never said it was directed to Israel for he writes to "Blood Washed Saints" which Israel rejected = 1 Peter 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ...
  14. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    This was my 'hidden ace' = slang for 'i know what they cannot see'
  15. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    i AGREE with you
  16. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    We fully agree with "It is written" Personally, if and when i am corrected by scripture thru a Brother or Sister who points to the Truth, i delight in the Truth and let go of that conflict which i was holding unto. Lose and you WIN type of Reality
  17. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    JESUS says "ABSOLUTELY NOT" Why are you contradicting Christ and the Apostles??? Rapture before Wrath is what JESUS Says and the Apostles and the OT prophets and Revelation
  18. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    His 2nd Coming and the Resurrection occur BEFORE the Rapture = 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
  19. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Scripture that declares this (i am not disagreeing but we must be specific)
  20. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    the earthbound nation is just one group awaiting Salvation for they have not yet been restored by God = read Romans chapters 9 thru 11 What about the Blood Washed Saints = both Jew and Gentile who make up the Body of Christ = are we awaiting Salvation as well?