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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Plenty to support it except some of you are clueless. That unless something comes right out and says so, such as Matthew 19:28, for example, that this supports a millennium after the 2nd coming, that means Premils have no biblical corroboration for their interpretation of Revelation 20:1-6...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Some of you can't even grasp context properly at times, thus can't keep things in context. The context of my post had zero to do with whether or not JWs and Premils share some of the same beliefs. My point had to do with having debunked their interpretation that Jesus is not God, as an example...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    You have no discernment whatsoever if you are applying that in that manner. Why would you be applying what Jesus said about Lot's wife in Luke 17 to that of His 2nd coming in the end of this age to begin with? Luke 17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    The reason why some need this in the twinkling of eye to explain everything is in order to explain away everything rather than explaining everything. IOW, it's a cop out to take that approach. No hard work involved whatsoever. Just let this in the twinkling of an eye explain everything. Plus...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    I guess it's equally all noise when any of us insist, including maybe even you, that our arguments have debunked Pretrib, for example. Or that our arguments have debunked that Jesus is not God, pertaining to JWs, as another example. The reason I bring these examples up is because not even you...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Except my username at the time was not Diva, it was divaD, that's David spelled backwards. Had you included that D at the end of that name, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now. I would have been perfectly fine with it since divaD is not the same as being called Diva.
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Whether you realize it or not, and whether you acknowledge it or not, I am a addressing the OP in my own way by debunking Amil, thus leaving Amil no valid arguments. But of course though, Amils are no different than JWs and Pretribbers, for example, when it comes to being debunked. Amils, just...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    So now I'm Diva, a woman? Except I'm pretty sure I was born a male and that my mother named me David, not Diva nor even Dave. She named me after the David in the Bible, and that there is no Diva nor a Dave in the Bible. I don't even like being called Dave let alone Diva.
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    As to something like that, I think all views are going to have a problem with things of that nature, to some degree. For example. 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    In the twinkling of an eye even. Only per Amil. Even in the beginning God never did any of those things in the twinkling of an eye. Not that He couldn't have. He chose not to. Amils, such as you, so maybe not Amils, for sure abuse the following by applying it universally to every event...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    The following supports what I'm arguing that none of the unsaved dead can rise and be judged until all of the saved have risen and have been judged first. Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Oh I get it. When I reason through things in the same manner like @WPM does per Threads such as --Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+? --it's called misrepresenting Amil when I do the same thing here. But when @WPM does things...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Unfortunately, telling Amils to consider this or that is in vain. They are not going to do any such thing.
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Apparently, here's some of the absurd nonsense one has to believe in order to be Amil. John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    What I'm saying is, 2 Peter 3:10-12 has to be fulfilled first. Maybe it only involves 1 hour, maybe 10 hours, maybe a full day, maybe a cpl of days, who knows? The point is, the NHNE don't begin in the meantime, regardless how short or how long 2 Peter 3:10-12 is involving. Once that part is...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    We're not on the same page here, obviously. Per my thinking, the regeneration meant in Matthew 19:28 doesn't even begin until there is first the beginning of the NHNE. While 2 Peter 3:10-12 is taking place, the beginning of the NHNE hasn't arrived yet. The NHNE are everlasting, yet it has to...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    It's a logical deduction if one is Premil like me who agrees with Amil that the NHNE begin with the 2nd coming, yet disagrees Amil is correct that the millennium precedes the 2nd coming. For example. Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    As to your argument in regards to God being the God of the living, this has already been addressed. The context involves a bodily resurrection, not what does or does not happen to a soul upon death. For all we know, the Sadducees in Matthew 22:23 may have believed that souls were created...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I don't agree with you. I see what he is saying as making perfect sense. The reason why you don't is because of doctrinal bias on your part. Here's what I decided to do. I submitted post #172 to chatgpt to summarize in order to see if it could make any sense out of since you insist @Zao is life...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I'm not the only Premil on the planet that has arrived at that conclusion. What choice do I have when I'm not convinced that Amil is the correct position, but do agree with Amils that the NHNE begin during the 2nd coming? Nor am I convinced most Premils are making sense out of Revelation 21:2 in...