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  1. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    We all hate Him, or have at one time, I suppose. Jesus taught us to love our enemies. So what should he do with His? [
  2. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    St. SteVen said: Anyone who claims to hate God haven't met Him yet. No. God is love. Remember the Prodigal's father? Perhaps. It is easy to claim one hates God due to life circumstances. But meeting the God of love face-to-face would make all the difference. Many...
  3. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    I agree that forum Christian demonstrate many disturbing characteristics. But I am not quick to judge them. [
  4. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    St. SteVen said: Anyone who claims to hate God haven't met Him yet. I was referring to humans that have not yet met God. As far as I know, Lucifer has not yet been offered forgiveness. But I think that will happen at the end of the age of restoration. IMHO The ultimate...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    St. SteVen said: Actual Christians? How are such things measured? Is someone an actual Christian if they agree with your doctrine? That's a good question. A renewed relationship with God is key. Not always obvious from the way they post. [
  6. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    St. SteVen said: Anyone who claims to hate God haven't met Him yet. No. God is love. Remember the Prodigal's father? [
  7. St. SteVen

    Lucian of Antioch

    LOL Seven days from the sixth day? Would be Friday. ??? Doesn't look like the sabbath was from the beginning. ??? Unless it's like the army. You get your first day off your you-know-what. - LOL [
  8. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    Actual Christians? How are such things measured? Is someone an actual Christian if they agree with your doctrine? [
  9. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    Anyone who claims to hate God hasn't met Him yet. [
  10. St. SteVen

    Lucian of Antioch

    Not true. Obviously the Israelites had NEVER observed the sabbath. Exodus 16:27-30 NIV Nevertheless, some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather it, but they found none. 28 Then the Lord said to Moses, “How long will you[a] refuse to keep my commands and my instructions? 29...
  11. St. SteVen

    Lucian of Antioch

    Adam was created on the sixth day. What day was the seventh day sabbath for him? (six days of work before) Was it the day that the Lord God made holy? (nope) [
  12. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    Right. No one chooses to be damned. [
  13. St. SteVen

    The Bliss of Religious Homeostasis - Don't Rock the Boat

    Was planning to put this in the Christian Theology section, but wanted to put this in front of a different audience. I haven't posted in this area for a while. In a conversation, I was trying to explain a concept when the descriptor "homeostasis" came to mind. There is a stability, whether...
  14. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    Yes. That tactic has been used successfully in the past. Better not to report their bad behavior. Amen. [
  15. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    Yes. When will that happen for the unreached people groups? [
  16. St. SteVen

    The Case for Eternal Security

    It's not a secular graph. - LOL [
  17. St. SteVen

    Lucian of Antioch

    Further evidence. Deuteronomy 5:1-4 NIV Moses summoned all Israel and said: Hear, Israel, the decrees and laws I declare in your hearing today. Learn them and be sure to follow them. 2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. 3 It was not with our ancestors[a] that the Lord made...
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    Lucian of Antioch

    The Sabbath points to creation, not the other way around. God gave the Sabbath to the Israelites alone through Moses. There was no change of days. (except in Catholicism) The whole law was put aside when Christ came. In Exodus chapter 16 God gave the Sabbath to the Israelites as part of the...
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    The happy thread

    Mi casa mat es su casa mat. [
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    Christianity as a Closed System

    Yes. I consider myself to be a recovering evangelical. (not evangelist) Most every style of Christianity is "formalistic". Why do you label evangelicalism? (and there certainly are other choices that are far more formalistic) [