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    The Coming Rapture

    All pretribs believe the resurrection and the rapture occur at Christ's coming. So simple
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    The Coming Rapture

    It is the exact words you aimed at me. (Push back.) You just called your own deal useless. Rev 19 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which...
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    THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

    Here is the deal. I am as Pauline as the next man. I live in the epistles mostly. But I do not see the need to smear Jesus, Peter and John and James. That is appalling what paulines do. Nor do I see the need to make salvation into a string of words.
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    THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

    Was it not Paul that said all scripture is inspired by God?
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    THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

    Neither did Paul when he got saved
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    THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

    Yes indeed. Jesus knew his mission. To die. To shed blood To resurrect To redeem To save To restore. To heal To make all things new. Paulines think He was confused as we're all the Apostles.
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    THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

    The Pauline doctrine is confusion. Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. I just shake my head at Paulines because they claim that only they have the true revelation of salvation. Then they proceed to give 30 false bogus PowerPoints of the bible. They think Paul is THE MAN...SUPER...
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    The Coming Rapture

    1 these 4 is the gathering of the bride. All of it, both those in graves and alive ones. Rev 19 is the second coming. Two totally different dynamics. It is impossible to make it fit, the 2 settings alone are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Plus the AC kills all refusing the mark. The church age ends...
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    The Coming Rapture

    Context. 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Now we can see what is actually said. We meet them in the air. Nothing in there is the second coming to earth on white horses...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    It says "see him coming in power and great glory" Rev 19. ....Yes Acts 1 ....not at all Rev 14....nope...it says sitting on a cloud. If he is sitting on a cloud, can He be seen from earth? Probably not. Again the game changer is the bride and groom. Rapture is at midnight in parts of the Earth...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    QUOTE "I don't see 7 years of tribulation for the world. I see a 7 year period of time for Israel that will begin when a covenant with many is made. I see the great tribulation begins in the midst of that week when the AOD is set up." The 4 horsemen kick it off. It is worldwide. Have you read...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Quote "However, the coming of Jesus in Matt 24 occurs at the 6th seal and not in Revelation 19" The sixth seal is fast forward to the second coming in Rev 19. Set Rev 19 in stone and follow the dots. Don't set earthquakes and sky in stone, then change matt 24 and acts 1.
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    QUOTE "Whenever Jesus shows up with His angels it will be in power and glory. Whether it's at the 6 seal after the tribulation or in the 7th seal at the end of wrath" NO rapture verse has Jesus returning in power and great glory. EVERY rapture verse is normal life, peacetime, everyday life and...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Why do claim I need Acts 1 changed? I don't. You never change scripture. Acts 1 does occur at either rapture. Jesus REMAINS IN THE CLOUDS. He returns in like manner after Armageddon when He sets His feet on the mount of Olives. QUOTE "Why do claim I need Acts 1 changed? I don't. You never...
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    The Coming Rapture

    I think like manner is the rapture. Not the second coming
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Nope nope nope. The impossible hurdle, which you've already been shown many times, is that there is only one place Jesus returns in power and great glory. that coming is in revelation. 19. And I believe it's why you need acts Chapter one changed into a different "like manner" than what is...
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    The Coming Rapture

    Yep Blew his mind. All he could do was personal attack. Humorous actually.
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    The Coming Rapture

    Wow I don't see how anyone can take you seriously. Just pathetic
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes...
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    The Coming Rapture

    lol Maye take off those cumbersome low vision goggles and learn the extremity of earth is its atmosphere. You really did not know that earth is made up of the planet and its atmosphere? News flash. The atmosphere IS the OUTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH. ...and yes, It is difficult to take someone...