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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    The "traditional"...or based on the traditions of men framework...comes from Islam. Heaven and hell are not a duality found in the bible..but in the Koran. So the influence is there. Also pagan religions also have become part of the "tradition" of men concerning Christianity. The bible speaks...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Yes, an initial salvation...or first cut. saved FROM the world. The first step in a race is at the starting line, not the finish line. This is at the Bema seat judgment...for the house of God. There are 2 resurrections. And there is both a good outcome and bad outcome in each. 2x2=4. So you...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    You are trying to close the barn door after the horse has already departed. The deceit is IN the modern message. You have already fully accepted the lie. If we love God we are to obey Him..not just accept Jesus as OUR personal sacrifice. The devil is mocking the gullibility of humans by a false...
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    Paul's hypocrisy and its consequence

    Remember how Jesus told His disciples that He was going to Jerusalem to die...and Peter said...NO...this cannot be. Even though Peter loved Jesus and thought to protect Him....such was not the will of God. Instead Jesus rebuked Peter. So then knowing one is about to be arrested is NOT a good...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Evangelism: Do you go up to someone on the street and start talking to them about the nature of the kingdom? Do you teach an involved subject like algebra to any passerby? No, people don't become Christians that way. People are challenged to "make a decision" for Christ....or else they are...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Look, I've tried explaining this to you so many times. I'll try another colour. I have said that being under grace brings a new level of expectation from God. Can a motorcycle compete at the tour de France? Why not? So you are asking me if a motorcycle goes faster than a bicycle??? Do you...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Not according to Paul...or the bible. Each has its own level of the gospel to fulfill or obey. You are not making any distinction between covenants. Have you read where Gentiles at this time, the wild branches, can be as easily cut off as the original branches were in their time. Each...
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    Perseverance of the Saints is different from Once Saved Always Saved

    The blood of Christ is not for later but for now. Don't buy into the Nordic after-life version of Christianity. The blood of Christ cleanses from all sin right now. Have you ever heard the song that goes..."there is power, power, wonder working power, in the blood of the Lamb?" The blood of...
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    Are Thankfulness and Generosity key to a Blessed Life?

    Amen. Freely you have received...freely give. God loves a cheerful giver. :D Giving thanks now leads to an eternal giving of thanks.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Jesus is the author and finisher of faith. Ahem. You just said we are NOT going to be perfected by the flesh. So then learning and battling are OUT. The holy walk is about being hidden in God. He does the fighting for us there. There is no battling except against the lies that war outside of...
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    Sound the Alarm: The Enemy Attacks The Marriage Bed

    This is such an important consideration...but one that is very hard to go public with. There is a difficulty in describing what a functioning Christian marriage looks like. So in our time many of the aspects could be seen as controversial since the foundation of all intimacy is spiritual in...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Another thing that is done to eliminate the 4 destinies is to describe the book of life at the GWT judgment as a book of death...as if all who are resurrected to stand before the GWT are thrown into the lake of fire. Again, with a little reading skills and some honesty, the text doesn't say...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Again, reading skills and honesty are required to be able to understand what is written. I've already heard many of the ways to misunderstand the text. Wandering forever is not the same as wandering now. A four year old can discern the difference.
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    To all who have been taken captive by religious conventions that are not supported by the bible...I pray that God gives each one understanding.
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Selective reading. Life and death and blessing and cursing. 4 variables. 4 possibilities. Of course only the living have access to the other 2 possibilities of blessing and cursing. Not so. All who believe in Jesus have passed from death to life...or do you deny that? Then it becomes a...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Paul said he was blameless according to the law. The law could only be administered by breaking it OUTWARDLY. No one can judge the thoughts of a person if no action ensued. Jesus came to clarify the spiritual nature of the law ...which is about what a person is in thought as as well as action...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    LOL. False. You are justifying yourself by spreading falsehood. You are seeing the Pharisee in Paul. I see the weak uncrucified believer. Be very careful how you see with those Pharisee eyes. o_O Paul was a Christian in Romans 7 in need of going to the cross. Romans 7 is the realization that...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Sure. Overcoming our outward sins...very OT, but necessary if one is not in the Spirit. As long as you realize that this is not the gospel. The gospel is about an instant freedom from sin through holiness...as a gift of grace through faith...a change of location (kingdom walk) into being no...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Selective readers will only see two destinies even when all four are being clearly delineated. Way before there can be any sort of spiritual discernment and understanding...there has to be an honesty in reading the text. Before God helps us to understand what is hidden from the natural mind...