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  1. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    4. If the conversation included a request, like Yeshua asking His Father to bypass the cup (so-to-speak); it indicates individuality and hierarchy. Matthew 26:36-46 5. If the conversation is in the form of a pray. For example; Our Father which art in Heaven.....But the Son was standing before...
  2. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    So the effort of belief control began. This doctrine had to be forced on Christianity in that they would excommunicate or kill anyone that preached anything contrary to the one God Trinity, even to the point that one could not be a Christian or saved if they did not believe in the one God...
  3. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    I have given a few, I have given a lot and they refered to them separately......I told you that at times they refered to God the Father as God and God the Son as Lord. That is two separate distinctions and and the word and adds another person. We did not make the distinctions of Father AND...
  4. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Like I said Christ explained the oneness concept and like I said categories of God.....and like I said the Apostles at times would refer to God the Father as God and God the Son as Lord. And again like said I bet I have close to a hundred fifty scriptures and you have a couple.....so there ya go.
  5. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    You are quoting Old Testament scriptures.....One God in the Old Testament.....Yeap! Then He had a Son. Over 50 My Father scriptures....The Father is greater than I.....My Father in Heaven......This is my Son of whom I am well pleased....God the Father knew when the end of time was....Christ did...
  6. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    I think post 44 makes it clear that I and the scriptures know that there are 3 Gods.
  7. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    I agree. Three Gods in union....what you say is not biblical....much more modern. The Apostles knew there was a difference between God the Father and God the Son. At times they refered to God the Father as God and God the Son as Lord. The Father is greater than I. As far as substances....I do...
  8. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    You say that the Trinity means three Gods in one..... No I did not say that, read post 44
  9. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    If you and I are going to have a good time conversing consider that I have a sense of humor.....humor first insult and offensive at last resort. Again the study of faith is interesting and will teach you many things.
  10. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Love your post! In Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted to to put false ways far from him, for God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, and he chose the way of faith by setting it before him, so this has always been the one and only way of salvation by grace through faith. Psalms...
  11. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Roman Ecumenical Council doctrine that was first formulated to stop the disagreement on the Gods. The McKenzie Bible Dictionary explains it this way.... “The Trinity of God is defined by the Church as the belief that in God there are three persons who subsist in one nature. The belief as so...
  12. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Its a joke among Theologians. There is no "THE BIBLE" so many translations. If you are serious about study and knowing the truth....take it to the scriptures. You can find it on the web, and better there are books that have photocopies of the existing scriptures. What is more important than the...
  13. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Peter Addresses the Crowd. 14 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, and raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the...
  14. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Now this is an abbreviated account. If anybody would like to bring something up….please be my guest. Also this thread is about a friendly exchange of ideas and beliefs and questions for each other is fine….but not hard debate. So here we are….it is after the crucifixion and Christ has...
  15. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    No takers on the meaning and aspects of Christ crucifixion? To improve our relationship with Yahweh we had to kill His Son? Why? So what do you think guys? Most explanations point to a perfect sacrifice. What do you think? Does a sacrifices normally include gruesome torture? Gruesome torture by...
  16. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    To improve our relationship with Yahweh we had to kill His Son? Why? So what do you think guys? Most explanations point to a perfect sacrifice. What do you think? Does a sacrifices normally include gruesome torture? Gruesome torture by those that God was trying to save. Was it the suffering of...
  17. Grailhunter

    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    Does the word immortal apply to existence after death? I believe immortal applies to living forever. Eternal life applies to exitance after death as spirit.....In Heaven or Hell.
  18. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Passover is one 24 hour period in the seven day Feast of Unleavened bread. The Jewish Passover occurs each year on the evening of the first full moon after the Spring Equinox. One thing we know for sure, Christ was not crucified on the day He ate the His Last Supper. But the Jews would have...
  19. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    Oh ya call Him anything.....I like George. Persons and places have a tenancy to remain similar among languages. Two guys speaking different languages meet at a cross roads and one asks the other....Which way to Rome? Well the other guy may only recognize the word Rome and he can point the way...
  20. Grailhunter

    AN ANALYSIS OF GOD'S MISSION OF SALVATION

    I do not perpetuate wrong.....accuracy is important to me and as far as Yahweh and Yeshua, I believe the names of the Gods are important. I am a theologian....long story why....formally educated in 5 countries. You say...In the Greek New Testament He is called Iesous, which is fairly close to...