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why?I know it's a bit off topic, but that's something I've never understood...

well, tnhose two mean the same thing according to the Greek texts: 1. without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be 2. without beginning 3. without end, never to cease, everlasting it's that "forever and ever" term we have to look at more. just for the...

(RaddSpencer;50556) What can I say, I think the English translations are correct --- and the convey the information correctly I'm sorry, RaddSpencer, but I have to disagree with you on this... one has to look at the original text in order to understand what Paul, Peter, or John really said...

so... what are they symbolic of?

for those who don't beleive in the rapture... what are your views on the Two Witnesses?do you believe that Revelation 11 talks literally of two people or do you believe it is a symbolic representation of something else?and having said that, what about the sealed 144,000?... do you take that as...

(Jake99;55095) kriss, I only had to be taught the bible once as a child to understand what it means. I agree that the world will be thirsty for the words of the Lord because everyone is going the wrong way including you. Christianity has twisted the bible to suit thier way of life which is one...

but we don't know exactly what he saw... none of us were there, so we really can't make any assumption on what he saw... all we know is what he wrote, and like I said, "shortly hereafter" tells me that it's something that will shortly comeand on another note, I've always been curious as to what...

but has Israel always been referred to as a fig tree?... is it not referred to more as an olive tree?and we also have to look at what Mark and Luke said when it comes to the Olivet Discourse, because Matthew, Mark, and Luke all compliment each other

(kriss;55079) Let me ask you where are the verses explaining that scripture should be read as history by future/latter Generations that within a few years after his death on the cross all prophecys would be fulfilled? No he says he spoke in parables, like the fig tree to place the last...

I was too also, I know futurists say that the seventieth week hasn't begun yet... when is it supposed to begin?and I'm not trying to attack anyone on here... I really do just want to learn about all of it, and all sides, to be honest, because in all honesty, all we can do is speculate on which...

it had something to do with the Thousand Year Reign...okay... on Daniel 9:27... let's read more than just verse 27... let's try 24-27, because it gives us a clearer picture on what Daniel is saying "24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the...

now hold on... even you have told me and others in the past in another thread that 2 Peter 3:8 is not meant to be taken that way... you've told me that it is a promise to give assure us that we will get what He promises and not to be used literally as a thousand years is like a day to God...

i just want to point out that both Preterism and Futurism were ideas created by the Jesuit Order during the Great Reformation; Preterism by Luis De Alcasar and Futurism by Fransisco Ribera...now, please explain to me why Historicism is supposedly wrong, because I'm starting to see it as more of...

I didn't want to make a new thread about this, because this kind of goes in with what this thread title says, but if the mods think that this would be a good thread in it of itself, then by all means, feel free to divide it into a new thread today there are many views on the prophecies and...

i agree... it's just when it came to that, I needed biblical proof that it was literal not not symbolic

okay... now, where does the thousand year reign come into play?

okay, I read that, but it still doesn't make any sense to me

ok, I need help here understanding it, jag... what in that verse makes it literal?

so, with that in mind, part of me leads to beleive that this is also a symbolic representation of a thousand years, but another part of me keeps in mind 2 Peter 3:9, and that it's part of the prophetic week...so one is right, and one is wrong... in fact, Amillenialism is based around the...

well, it goes with the fact that almost all of Revelation cannot be taken literally; I don't think Revelation is talking about literal tails of scorpions in the verse that it talks about...