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Why is it ridiculous Pin? Is God playing a sadistic game with us? According to calvinist theology: First God creates us and decrees that we would sin...the downfall. Then He figures out a scheme to get us saved....by accepting His Son who will sacrifice Himself! But wait...scheme not necessary...

Wow. Sounds like a similar journey! Except I was Catholic. Ditto. Now, they didn't all agree on every single dot and title, but they did agree on the important doctrine and they certainly knew more than we do today having learned from either the Apostles themselves, or those they taught...

You LOVE to spar. That is SO unlovingly born again Christian of you. No more posting to you.

No more posting to you Wrangler. I will comment from time to time, it's my prerogative.

Some things you're going to have to figure out for yourself. Another member on h ere is trying to help you but you REFUSE discussion at every turn. I don't have time for this. Also, you keep posting about spirit this and spirit that. How about going over your soteriology and figuring out HOW...

And you think you could learn the Trinity from going to a Catholic school for 12 years? I used to be Catholic Rich, I sent my two children to Catholic school for varying reasons. I've been teaching Catholic doctrine for years so I know what I'm saying: You CANNOT learn about the Trinity in...

You can't stand it Wrangler. It's truly satanic. @Lizbeth is a CHRISTIAN person....she knows what CHRISTIANS believe.... and she is 100% correct in her post. THE WORD THE LOGOS Go find out what the logos is Mr. Philosopher (which is how you presented yourself to me back when). THE...

You just blashpemed God in a post that just fell on page 1 and which I am NOT going to look for.... but, you blaspheme Jesus all the time, so no problem for those reading along...they know what you state. And, you can call yourself a billionaire... that does not make you one.

Scot.... I'm sure you've been told this before: THERE AIN'T NO NEW REVELATION. Revelation ended with the book of Revelation. There might be some new UNDERSTANDING.... but God is NOT giving us anything NEW. Here are some guys that received new revelation: MUHAMMAD JOHN SMITH CHARLES RUSSELL...

This is the 3rd time you're accusing me of misquoting you and so I will no longer be posting to you since it's obvious I don't understand you at all. BUT HERE is what you posted in your post no. 4052 in its entirety: Relax a bit... I'm afraid you might not like my answer. The list of beliefs...

I accept that 98% of the NT is for all of us,,,,but some of it is not. John 16 and 17 is Jesus speaking to His Apostles. Note John 15:27 Jesus states that "YOU HAVE BEEN WITH ME FROM THE BEGINNING". The Holy Spirit in us helps us to understand scripture since it is spiritually discerend (1 cor...

Well, thanks for asking! The right way is to go back to the beginning and find out what the early church taught. IOW,,,, after the Reformation (which was necessary due to all the changes made) it becomes clear that there are many teachings out there. HOW to determine which are right and which...

Lux....it may not help much but let me tell you something I learned from posting on Christian forums... It's a good thing to do. You may not have any impact on any one particular member you may be posting to... BUT There are plenty out there reading what you wrote that you don't even know about...

Nice poster RJ. IF you believe what you just posted... then you should reject all calvinist teachings that are espoused by you on these threads. Thanks.

Go back and read you post Apak. YOU called the assemblers of the bible FANATICS. It's there for everyone to see. And this is turning into an argument...so I won't be replying to you. THE TRINITY is in THE BIBLE. What kind of a HUGE conspiracy would it have taken? The persons in the NT would...

Well, a case could be made. But I'm not the one to explain it... Correct....the deciding factor is the concept GOD AND SAVIOR ...said concurrently indicating one person only. Also, this phrase is repeated in 2 Peter 1:1 (GOD AND SAVIOR) 1To those who have received a faith of the same kind as...

Upholds the universe Upholds all things What's the difference? Jesus is the heir because He is the Son of God.....Jesus is the Son,,,the REAL son, not the 2nd Person of the Trinity...the Word/Logos. Jesus is superior to all the prophets because He is the Son in the sense of Matthew 21:33-39...

But you forgot to post the list....

APAK I'm so calm. But yes,,,,very passionate about what is going on in Christianity. So those that assembled the bible are FANATICS and PHILOSPHERS (you know, NOT theologians I guess) that took an interest in the bible at some time. WHICH bible? Do you mean the NT? There was no NT. Then they...

OK RJ,,,as usual...you know I'm not going to discuss with you forever. 3/4 of the stuff you wrote has nothing to do with anything. Sorry.