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  1. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    By the scriptures, through the Holy Spirit's teaching, the two anointed witnesses were John the Baptist and Jesus. Edit: I did not think that you believe in a false secret rapture. I was only asking, so as to be clear. I hear all of what you are saying. I do agree that we are experiencing a...
  2. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    Everyone's problem is they have not yet figured it out who the New earth is, which is now the very place of God's dwelling, which is the "why" of our creation, and "why" God has so much longsuffering over it. Luke 17 [21] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of...
  3. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    Are you alluding to a secret rapture, before the Lord is visibly revealed from heaven?? If so, there is no scriptural evidence for such a belief system. KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10 is a simultaneous event, all within 24 hours of "the SAME DAY" (Luke 17:28-30). Please take notice of the word "WHEN"...
  4. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    Please provide the scripture for God's 7000 year plan.
  5. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    Though all Premils speak of a literal future 1000 years on earth, AFTER Jesus returns in all His Immortal Glory, none of you dare to find out the single NT scriptural reason of why, when and how God is allowing for a time of "a thousand years". Nor do you understand that in God's relation to...
  6. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    Every single living person is the potential temple of the Living God, through faith in Christ. Therefore, whosoever dies without Christ, remains to be the natural man, which is to say: they DO NOT have Christ, because surely He IS NOT within them, by the Gift of the Holy Spirit. 1 John 5:11-13...
  7. Earburner

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    The book of Revelation is NOT to be read or understood chronologically by human wisdom, but rather spiritually, through the mind of Christ within us. Please read and study all of 1 Cor. ch. 2. Specifically: 1 Cor. 2:5, 13 and 16. There are many denominationally taught professing Christians...
  8. Earburner

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Amen! Yes, the fifth seal took place after the cross, prior to Pentecost. They are of the symbolic 12,000 who were sealed out of each of the 12 tribes of Israel, being those who were of faith in waiting for the Promise to come. Ever since Pentecost, there is now no difference between Jew and...
  9. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    The next time you are outside, on a bright sunny day, light a match or a lighter and then hold it up in front of the sun. When you briefly look through the flame into the sun, you will barely be able to make out the flame that you are looking through. Exod.3:2-4 Matt.17:2 Matt.28:3 Mark.9:3 What...
  10. Earburner

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    The number 144,000 is to be understood symbolically, being a number of completion. I perceive that you are on the correct track with the 144,000. However, if you are thinking that those of Israel, who were only living believers in Christ, upon the Day of Pentecost, we should not forget all of...
  11. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    It is evident that you do not understand that the OT. Prophets had NO IDEA of WHEN and HOW the prophecies concerning Jesus would be fulfilled, in the works of God that were given to Him to do and FINISH. Dan. 9:24. Rom. 16 [25] Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel...
  12. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    Yes, KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10, is a simultaneous event!! Jesus makes it very clear about That Day in KJV Luke 17:28-30. Just as it was for Lot and is escape, just before the destruction of Sodom. It all took place within 24 hours, of which even Abraham was an eye witness to it. Gen. 19:15-28
  13. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    As you say: "Christ arrives to the place where everlasting destruction happens", I agree. Him being revealed from heaven will be His sudden second coming as lightning, in flaming fire. Nowhere in the NT does it ever say that Jesus touches the earth. The evidence of that is, all who are "born...
  14. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    I agree!! When one reads the Strongs Concordance, the Greek word for "flaming fire" in 2 Thes. 1:7 is meaning fiery fire.
  15. Earburner

    Sin and repentance

    The form of repentance that God requires is repentance TOWARDS God Himself. It is the Greek word: "metanoeo"- to have  ANOTHER mind). It is the only form of repentance by which one shall receive God's Grace through faith in Jesus, for the forgiveness and REMOVAL of all sin. John 14 [16] And I...
  16. Earburner

    Biblical Repentance

    Actually, in the Greek, there are two forms of repentance, but ONLY one is acceptable to God for the gift of His salvation. Metanoia- is to change one's own mind. Metanoeo- is to have another mind. Do you know which form God requires? John 14 [16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give...
  17. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    Yes! When Jesus is revealed from heaven IN FLAMING [fiery] FIRE.... 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
  18. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    BTW, I should add that the present nation of Israel is NOT the Israel of God.
  19. Earburner

    Gog and Magog and The Flaming Fire

    I do believe the Gospel first! Luke 17:28-30.
  20. Earburner

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    That depends on three factors of understanding of what God's REASON IS for a 1000 year period: A period of 1000 years is understood to be either literally or figuratively. 1. A literal period of a 1000 years shall begin in the future. 2. A figurative period of a 1000 years has begun, but has...