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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    LOL, I have the best version of Sci-Fi that I took from my father's collection when he died. Larkin provides some of the most elaborate stuff imaginable. Though I do appreciate his artistic abilities. Too bad it was applied to such mistaken eschatology. It sent so many people off in the...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    I am not responsible for the mistaken impressions you get from what I wrote. I can clarify what I wrote, but this is not "walking back" anything. Try not to be so suspicious of people's motives. It's not good for your health to be so cynical.
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    This presumption of John being on Patmos in AD 96 is what sends your whole interpretation of Revelation off-track. The internal evidence of Revelation and scripture itself denies that late date and requires a date between late AD 59 and early AD 60. And your understanding of which...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    YES, we do need the next final (third) resurrection and a final GWT judgment event to bring fallen mankind's history to a close. Even with the NHNE reality which we are currently living in, Isaiah never said that this was the culmination point of all human history. Isaiah's description of the...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Sure, if you are talking about foreknowledge, of course that kind of prophecy is related to the future. But the prophets of the OT were often sent to rehearse people's past sins to them as a rebuke from God. This kind of prophecy was concerning past events. And when the OT temple...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    I never said that. The early church fathers mentioned a John the Presbyter as being a separate individual from John the son of Zebedee (Eusebius gives this quote from Papias). Yet John the son of Zebedee is mentioned as being separate from the "beloved disciple" in the book of John. Some of...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Prophecy is not necessarily about future things. Remember, when Christ was on trial before the Sanhedrin, those who struck Him mocked Him, saying, "Prophesy, who was it that smote thee?" (Luke 22:63). This striking of Christ had already occurred, yet they were urging Christ to prophesy...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Wrong. Preteristic teaching was first given by Christ and the disciples. It fills the NT writings. It doesn't matter how the Catholic Church has figured in misusing this truth for their own ends. They will answer to God for their own issues, but it doesn't negate the facts as presented by...
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    Is the ability to procreate the only requirement for the "model" marriage?

    I remember my own father expressing this very sentiment. Presuming that overwhelming love for his wife caused Adam to take the fruit and eat what was forbidden. This is totally mistaken. Adam put his love for Eve before his love for his Creator and His commandment. THIS IS IDOLATRY TO THE...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    You're right - life is brief enough that we need to concentrate on the essentials. The reason why I belabor such points as this one above is in an effort to dispel the weight of fear that most people live with when they think of end times themes. This fearful attitude has been conditioned...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    I did notice that in what you posted, thank you. And I have read others who also think that Revelation was broken up into more than one portion - some even proposing several authors for Revelation (which John does not allow for Revelation's contents in Rev. 22:18). The reason why I believe...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Sorry, MatthewG, but that isn't possible that it could have been written some thirteen years earlier. The reason for this is the identity of the sixth and seventh "kings" on the Scarlet Beast, which was "ABOUT TO arise" in Revelation 17, and was also ABOUT TO "go into destruction". There was a...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Tell that to Paul and his companions who had the screaming Ephesian mob of approximately 25,000 people in the theater protesting their teaching in Acts 19. Tribulation indeed. Ephesus was the capital of Asia at the time. Any persecution against the believers in that city spread throughout...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    I have mentioned two passages in Revelation already above which prove an early date of AD 59 / 60. You and I have gone over these texts and many others before on GCF in my comment # 14 for the topic "When was Revelation Written?" at the following link...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Tradition is not proof. Never has been. And there was more than one "John" in the ministry in the early church (John surnamed Mark, for instance). John in writing Revelation says he was presently at that time a "companion in tribulation" along with his brethren (Rev. 1:9). Combined with...
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    How will the end come....?

    It depends on which "last days" you are referring to, Hobie. The "last days" before Christ's second coming return were in Peter's days, when he wrote that "the end of all things is at hand" (1 Peter 4:7). The "last days" in our future before the next resurrection event and a final judgment...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Additional internal proof for Revelation's early date... John's readers were told to "calculate" the number of the Rev. 13 Sea Beast. They were to do this by counting backward in time 666 years from that time when Revelation was written to them, going back all the way to when that ancient Sea...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Sure, I agree that this is one solid fact that denies the late dating. But it is certainly not the only one. There is no way that Revelation's letter to the Laodicean church (reproving them for their smug, self-satisfied attitude) could have been written to them AFTER the AD 60 disastrous...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Sorry, but that is too late to match with the internal evidence within Revelation. Revelation can't possibly be written any later than early AD 60, or any earlier than late AD 59. There are datable events in Revelation that prove this.
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Then you haven't yet studied Revelation's content carefully enough. The proof for the very precise early date of AD 59-early AD 60 is there.