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Well the line of thought comes from in a moment in the twinkling of an eye so many think it will happen in a flash not a slow ascension wherre everyone will see it happen. Personally I don't know nor do i claim to assume I would know how it will happen until happens scriptures says it will...

Well the belief is that it will be so sudden that no one will even know it happened until people suddenly rrealize a lot of people are missing and that it will happen out of nowhere ona random day without warning.

I am curious what do you think of the next chapter when he says that the day of the Lord comes like a theif in the night in the next chapter of Thessolonians? if not a pre trib rapture which aside from a mid trid one or pre wrath one at least is the only one in which we can liken his coming as a...

I believe secret was meant as in a sudden dissapearing of people happening out of nowhere at a random time, you know the whole no man knows the day or hour thing.

A worthy post indeed one worth pondering.

I am honestly astonished at how blessed I have been in finding this forum I get such joy from speaking with some of the people i have encountered here like you there are some amazing people here you all have been a fantastic blessing to me God knew what he was doing in leading me here. But yes...

I am so glad I joined this forum I have met some truly amazing people here I don't think I have ever met someone so dedicated to the word as you it was a true blessing speaking with you.

I don't know about the whole mature church thing but I think while it is soon it is also still a bit off as well. Many are expecting it to be this year I cannot say if it will be this year or not but I think it is a little ways off still yet close enough that we need to pay attention. I also...

Well the going into it with a clean slate and without our preset beliefs and understanding is really for those who need to learn how to learn. We need to ask ourseleves a very honest and important question and ask and answer it honestly, is it possible i could be wrong and if i am would i be...

It would seem I will have to keep my eye out for you as you seem to be firmyl grounded in the truth beautifully so it is a rare treat to see.

lET ME ASK YOU THIS, IF gOD GAVE YOU SOMETHING TO SAY TO SOMEONE WOULD YOU NOT LISTEN TO HIM AND SPEAK IT? i KNOW HIS VOICE VERY WELL AND I FOLLOW THE FLOW OF THE SPIRIT i SPEAK WHAT IS PLACED ON MY HEART KNOWING THE DANGERS OF BEING CALLED A FALSE PROPHET OR BEING ATTACKED BY OTHERS YET i DO IT...

Yes sadly scripture will say what we want it to say what we believe will be what our eyes see, this is why it is so important to have the heart of a student when studying scripture and to go into it with a clean slate no preconcieved beliefs or views in mind. If one already assumes for instance...

Bravo! just absolutely fantastic! You my dear friend have an understanding of the truth that rivals and exceeds what I thought even I knew and I thought i was pretty well versed in this particular truth. You know There was a time when I tried to earn my standing in him even though i knew better...

I appreciate you taking the time to write all of this for me do you know if there is a video i can watch that would help me to understand better?

Perhaps I should have made this in the deb To be honest I no longer have view i hold in certainty after studying each view and finding evidence for each one,after looking through the lens of each perspective i began to not hold my own personal view so firmly.. I do believe in a pre trib or at...

I am not sure why it did that that was not my intention

I understand that everone has different views on the rapture and i am no stranger to the debate I have seen verse after verse used to prove each side of the spectrum i have studied each side and each side if you look through the lens of each view has evidence to support their beliefs in...

I haven't had time to go through the pages yet and i have to go to work soon but i assumed there would bed plenty of that my post was not for them it was for those who like me can feel the nearness of his coming. sometimes it takes more than what doctrine we believe is true sometimes we have to...