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  1. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    MatthewG, for the sake of clarity, define for me what you mean by a "material church." Do you mean a building? Let me give you a theological definition, if I may. Religion - the submission of one's will to the will of God. If that's bondage, then fine. Jesus Christ is God. When Saul...
  2. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Matthew, that's great that God is your authority. Jesus is God, yes? I certainly believe so. Jesus founded a Church and delegated His authority to it. So, if you follow Jesus, you will become a member of His Church, as He desires, In John 17:21, Jesus prayed "so that they may all be one."...
  3. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Roland, nowhere in Scripture does it say Scripture trumps the Church. In fact, St. Paul says in 1 Tim 3:15 that it is the Church that is the "pillar and foundation of truth" not someone personally interpreting his/her Scripture. The Church Christ founded, the Catholic Church, wrote the New...
  4. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Authority can be delegated. This is what Jesus did with His Church. He delegated His Godly authority within His Church, first to Peter in Matt. 16:19. The keys that He gave Peter are a symbol of the dynastic office Jesus created, a second-in-command. Kings in Jesus' day had a...
  5. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Watch this: 24K views · 769 reactions | A piece of advice for Protestants #catholicfaith #TheTruth | Catholic Faith Defender Cebu Chapter | Catholic Faith Defender Cebu Chapter · Original audio
  6. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Bruce, that's a good question. My question is, if it is erroneously interpreted, is it still God's word? Or do interpretations not matter? Let me give you an example. The Baptists claim that infant Baptism is invalid. The Lutherans claim it is valid. Both groups read the same Bible and...
  7. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    John, I suspect you don't fully understand authority. Athority is given, not taken. Jesus gave His authority to the Apostles who gave that authority to their successors, the bishops, who have done likewise for 2000 years now. Just to pick one example, let's look at John 20:21. Jesus is...
  8. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    The OT did exist in the 4th century, but the Bible (OT + NT) didn't exist under one cover until the late 4th century. The NT also didn't exist under one cover until the late 4th century and was not formally considered Scripture until then. Some books (Gospels) were unofficially considered...
  9. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Strictly speaking, the Word of God is not a book. It is Jesus Christ. The Gospel of John begins with, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John is speaking of Jesus Christ here, not a book. The book was compiled by the Catholic Church, in case...
  10. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Christ established one Church. There were NO OTHER Christian chuches at the beginning. St. Ignatius of Antioch, the bishop of Antioch ordained by St. Peter, was captured by the Romans. While they were transporting him to be martyred for the faith, he wrote a letter to the Smyrnaeans around...
  11. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Zao, I'm not impressed. Let me help you out here. The church at Corinth, the church in Ephesus, the church in Galatia, the church in Rome, etc, were all LOCATIONS of churches WITHIN the Catholic Church. They were ALL Catholic. Every one of them. There were no denominations, and certainly no...
  12. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Well, I'm very well versed in history. There was but ONE Church for the first 1000 years of Christianity, the Catholic Church. The Orthodox splintered off in 1054 A.D. during the Great Schism and Protestantism didn't start until the 16th century, and has been continually splintering into...
  13. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Bruce, the Bible as we know it, Old Testament + New Testament, didn't exist until the late 4th century. The Church founded by Christ wrote the New Testament, but it took years after Christ ascended to heaven. And even then, the New Testament wasn't decided until the late 4th century. Before...
  14. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Not quite. The Church founded by Christ (the Catholic Church) is the authoritative teacher, not the Bible. The Church preceded the Bible, not vice versa. Jesus taught the Apostles orally. They called Him "Rabbi" (Teacher). SOME of what He taught them orally was eventually written down, and...
  15. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Bruce, the Old Testament was certainly there long before Christ founded the Church. But the Church wrote the New Testament. The Catholic Church is the original Church founded by Christ. St. Ignatius of Antioch, the bishop of Antioch ordained by St. Peter, was captured by the Romans. While...
  16. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Well, the Bible is certainly inspired by God, but it is a tool of His Mystical Body, the Church. The Church wrote and compiled the Bible, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. It it the Church which is the authentic interpreter of Scripture. And the Church wrote the New Testament from...
  17. Augustin56

    Kamala flip flops on the border....wants border wall after condemning it for years

    Kamala, like all Marxists, will tell any lie at any time to gain and maintain power. I wouldn't trust her to tell me the sun rises in the East.
  18. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    But there was no agreement on everything yet. There were many books/writings that were thought to be inspired that didn't make the cut, like the Didache, the Shepherd of Hermas, etc. Even some of the epistles that are part of the New Testament were relatively little known yet. And there was...
  19. Augustin56

    Biblical Authority

    Jesus didn't write a book to spread His truths. He founded a Church to do so. The Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church, preceded the New Testament. In fact the athors of the New Testament were Catholics, inspired by the Holy Spirit. In the late 4th century, the Catholic Church at...
  20. Augustin56

    There is only one true church

    Heaven was not open when Moses and Elijah died. Jesus had not come yet.