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Dear marks, Christ must come to a person first and give them Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit. After He does, they will come to Him just as a bride who goes out to meet the Bridegroom or just as the Prodigal son returns to his Father. In our present condition as children of the devil, we...

Dear marks, All sin is evil. After a person sins, they become a child of the Devil who is evil: 1John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever...

Dear marks, You said: God is not on the one hand telling man not to sin, that He doesn't want us to sin, that He commands us to resist sin, that the way to be happy is to not give in, and then on the other had secretly pleased by man's sin filfulling God's own secret desire. The Old Covenant of...

Dear Biblepaige, I don't believe it affirms marks' post. Marks was arguing that God looked into the future and saw that Adam was going to sin because of his free will ability to make that choice. This is not what Paul was teaching in Rom 9:17-19. In that passage, it was God's "will" for...

Dear marks, You do not understand the ways of God. His ways are not like the ways of man. God uses evil for His good purpose of creating children who will be like Him; who have a knowledge of good and evil. Consider these verses: Ecc 1:13 An experience of evil God has given to the sons of...

Dear Biblepaige, You said "I think that passage affirms "their" post". Whose post are you referencing? Joe

Dear marks, If that were so, then your comment also applies to Paul because of what Paul said below: Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth...

Dear Biblepaige, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement. Human "will" is nothing for Christ to overcome: Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he doeth according to his will in the army of the heavens, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none...

Dear Berean, You sound like the people who questioned Paul about the same truth: Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he...

Dear Stumpmaster, You are not looking at creation from the mind of Christ. Everything that God made from the beginning was good and it was especially good for His purpose of birthing His offspring (children of God) who He desired to have a knowledge of good and evil. Scripture clearly says...

Dear Biblepaige, You said: The proposal in a synopsis of your extensive sharing and as I understand it being, God made us to fall so he could create us anew through his mercy. IMHO, this makes for vacating any notion of God being benevolent. Or grace filled. It isn't an example of grace, IMHO...

Dear Berean, Adam and Eve sinned because God planned and caused them to sin. It did not happen by chance. God caused Adam and Eve to sin by creating them spiritually marred (Jer 18:4) and subject to vanity (Rom 8:20). In this weak spiritual condition, the body of flesh that He gave them...

Dear covenantee, I am not smarter I'm sure, but I am converted and can see spiritually. Also, there is no evidence that the Judean Christians were even in Jerusalem when the Roman armies surrounded it. Your beliefs do not have a foundation of truth. Also, you do not believe Paul when He...

Dear covenantee, If the Judaean Christians fled as a direct response to Jesus' warning, they were misunderstanding His spiritual teaching in Luke 21:20. Also, how could they flee if the Roman army had already surrounded Jerusalem as the verse says? After all, the Roman army surrounding...

Dear covenantee, You are still understanding Christ's end-time prophecies in a carnal way. Christ was not referring to the physical destruction of Jerusalem. He was referring to the destruction of spiritual Jerusalem (the one below) within a believer as they are being converted. Here is the...

Dear covenantee, I have a few minutes now to respond to your last post. The physical destruction of Jerusalem is not mentioned in scripture. If you believe it is, show me the scripture. The scripture in Luke 21:20 which you previously mentioned is a prophecy on the spiritual destruction of...

Dear covenantee, I will answer this post a little later today when I have more time. Joe

Dear covenantee, I will try to make my answer more clear to you than I did in my first post. The events described and/or prophesied to be fulfilled under the Old Covenant are physical outward events - like the birth of Christ and His ministry that led Him to the cross. But once the Old...

Dear covenantee, Since the physical destruction of Jerusalem is not mentioned in scripture (either prophesied beforehand or in a historical sense), it didn't suit the purposes of God to include it. The opposite is true for the birth of Christ. I wanted to include the following comments below...

Dear covenantee, I do believe that the destruction of Jerusalem was a physical historical event but it is not mentioned in scripture. The destruction of the Jerusalem in scripture is contained in spiritual teachings of Christ. There are TWO spiritual Jerusalem's in the New Covenant teachings...