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I see homemaking as a fulfilling calling for married women. But not if anyone does it to avoid doing their best in life. Ecclesiastes 9:10 King James Version 10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave...

Lol. Thanks for thinking of me. I love the story

It is people's obsession with money and status as identity that is the problem. Not you and the way you are by nature.

I don't have the power to take away anyone's choice. But I stand by saying we ought to inform women that every choice or goal comes with real tradeoffs and sacrifices, whether they work or become homemakers or something in the middle. I have never called any woman evil for working and and...

Homemaking a certain way can create a "second income". I don't require a car that needs its own payment, gas, and maintenance. It takes planning but we've gotten by with the car my parents gave me at 16 for a decade now. My husband bought it from them. "Whippy" has served us well. If I make a...

I agree with all of this. I dont believe patriarchy was universal in the past and I definitely think blanket submission to men would lead to adultery.

Two things can be true at once. It is way harder now due to the economy. But its still possible to live off one income provided one is willing to sacrifice a lot of luxuries. It's not always a matter of needing two incomes. We were extremely poor when I quit working. But we were happy. That...

There are times when verses can be purely metaphorical. And some meant to be more straightforward. But they can be both. Rejecting straightforward and earthly applications of the gender verses can lead to mistakes and confusion too. I really think that the term virgin simply means a woman...

If there are joint financial goals dictating the wife work outside the home, that's still a choice. I think wives should be open to working outside the home if necessary. But how do we define necessary? We have some of the highest standards of living in the world here in the United States...

I did. Im glad it says that. If I had to submit to other men as to the Lord...there could be some pretty bad conflict of interests! Only my husband and I are one flesh. I'm not one flesh with some rando or even a pastor. Why do you think it's added in there?

I would say we disagree when it comes to self and self-interest being unspiritual and wrong. It's true that we are to deny ourselves in order to submit to the will of Jesus (Matthew 16:24) However, this is temporary so that God can put us back into an exalted position in eternity. Consider...

Hi. Thanks for posting. Can you talk more about the frog like spirits of liberty, equality, and fraternity as opposed to the principles of the gospel? My thinking is that we worship fairness at all costs in the west but that this is not the Christian faith at all.

No. I'd say sexism, disrespect, and hate are rising. Just toward men, not women here in the U.S and other western countries. Not sure I believe you on the original texts not saying wives submit. Paul says it again in 1 Corinthians. Mutual submission can definitely be a thing in a relationship...

I am grateful for the engagement of everyone so far on this thread. No one has to read my stuff or comment. Thank you, everyone. I want to respond to you all. Baby girl kept me on my toes yesterday. But I'm finding myself awake at wee hours and want to share a bit more about me in regards to...

Three assumptions: 1. The "intimate partner" is male. Statistically, lesbian relationships experience the highest levels of domestic violence (will cite soon, my phone is buggy) Can't blame men for that one. 2. Women reporting domestic violence never shoved, slapped, or pushed their intimate...

I am too longwinded at times. Feminism is the air we breathe today, not patriarchy. The sexism of today is against men, not women. Scripture has the answer.

I'm seeing more brothers and sisters from older generations. Decades ago, toxic male behaviour towards women, abuse, chauvinism, and outright sexist disrespect and hate were real issues that our society wanted to address. But the issues have become very different today. I have rarely seen a...

Why are gender roles a distraction? If they are, what does that mean in how we should live? Asking in a neutral curious tone, not an accusatory one.

I don't have much of a desire to police tone or even content on my threads. People will mostly do what they want. But I don't see a good outcome from pursuing the topic on this thread. A separate thread would be fine. I don't see agreeing on gender roles as me signing off on every tone or...

I see the child discipline issue as off topic and not likely to produce any discussion that adds anything worthwhile.