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It sounds like you belong to some Paulian "religion." I'm glad I don't discriminate based on religion. Although I suppose you'd prefer I did. Well, actually, we know you would because you led the charge to denounce me as a Paul-hater a few years ago. That was kinda painful but, not to worry...

What you've basically said here is that it's more important to challenge the clubs people may belong to than what's actually being discussed. .

I'm on the edge of my seat. It's bound to have far-reaching consequences and ramifications. :rolleyes: .

:watching and waiting: .

I question your mind-reading skills. .

Let me make it more clear for you, @Behold: Righteousness by works is a convenient straw man in an age of permissiveness, but not a legitimate all-purpose concern. You're on a witch hunt. .

How can you not see that what you're inferring here is the exact opposite of what @Pancho Frijoles is saying? :rolleyes: .

I guess we'll see where folks stand on religious liberty—or, in the case of most political conservatives—RELIGIOUS ENTITLEMENT. .

I couldn't agree more, Chum. :) (But I never get credit for it—I bear the mark of a legalist.) .

The straw man of salvation by works is the greatest smokescreen the devil ever invented. He devises a new way to perpetrate it on folks at the dawn of every generation. He shows people a way to point at others and accuse them of legalism while they practice a masterful, fresh, new style all...

More pontification? What people usually mean when they say "not the same" is actually "the same ten minus one." What law do you think it is that Christ says He came not to destroy or alter one bit? Tell that to remote foreign missionaries. Doubtless you will insist, as others do, that God...

It's conflation and inconclusive to say that we are simply unable to keep God's commandments and then to say that we are, after all, able to do so with His help. No one has ever been able to keep His commandments without His help. Not to mention that the issue at hand is whether we are at...

@Peterlag Is post #160 your way of declining to comment on the paradox created by Galatians 5:3 and 1 Corinthians 7:19? .

This is simply a human pronouncement. You mean obedience to written laws such as "Thou shalt not steal," "Thou shalt not covet," "Thou shalt not kill," etc., is not necessary to "live by faith in what Christ has done for us"? Abstaining from murder, larceny, idolatry, false witness, etc...

By the way, I agree with the Scripture you have quoted. I also agree with this one: 1 Corinthians 7:19 NKJV — Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters. .

Scripture twisting and moral equivocation notwithstanding, the sticking point for me is that even as a youth in the Southern Baptist faith where the Sabbath was believed by lay people to be Sunday, there were plenty of folks who declined to keep it holy, but I never once encountered a person so...

Well, if we're speaking in simple terms, then, you shouldn't mind simply answering a direct question: Do you believe Christians are obligated to God to keep the seventh day of the week—which is called "the Sabbath of the LORD thy God" in the text of the 4th commandment—holy or not? .

Good to know .

Thank you, no, but I'm very familiar with the story, and I can't see what good a Hollywood movie about spiritualistic devotion could possibly do. I believe in Jesus and His Word—not apparitions and sentimentalism. .

:watching and waiting: .