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  1. Douggg

    Are the words given by the Seven Thunders still sealed?

    I think in what the seven thunders voices said likely included the name of the beast and/or the name of the false prophet. Thus, John was told not to write down what they said. John never actually reveals the name of the beast and the false prophet in Revelation. But since John saw people...
  2. Douggg

    Unravelling Revelation

    That is a false premise. The identity of Israel has not changed. The Gog/Magog attack on Israel in the latter days, latter years is on the present nation of Israel in the middle-east. It is easy to see that most of the nations listed making up the Gog/Magog group are muslim nations.
  3. Douggg

    Unravelling Revelation

    Go read Ezekiel 37:15-22. It is a prophesy that has been fulfilled in May 14, 1948. The nation of Israel over there in the middle east is the Israel of the Bible and end times. The Gog/Magog attack of Ezekiel 38-39 on Israel in the latter days, latter years will be on the current nation...
  4. Douggg

    Unravelling Revelation

    Right. Next go to these three passages to understand what Christ is associated as... John 12:13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now...
  5. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    No, that is not what I am saying. Ezekiel 37:15-22, says that Israel when a nation again, it will be one nation, not two nations any longer of north and south. And as one nation, it will have one king (leader) over it. Benjamin Netanyahu is the most recent prime minister. There have...
  6. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    You are evading talking about Ezekiel 37:15-22 is talking about the current nation of Israel.
  7. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    You are skipping Ezekiel 37:15-22. Address those verses. And is not Israel over there one nation - and not two nations of north and south ?
  8. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    You did not address the question. And you have yet to acknowledge that the nation of Israel over there is no longer two nations of north and south. That part of Ezekiel 37 has been fulfilled. Can you acknowledge that ?
  9. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    @tailgator And you have yet to acknowledge that the nation of Israel over there is no longer two nations of north and south. That part of Ezekiel 37 has been fulfilled. Can you acknowledge that ?
  10. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    The specific elect in Matthew 24:31 is referring to the Jews. The Jews en-masse will turn to Jesus in the middle of the seven years in Revelation 12:10. Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of...
  11. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    No, it is you who is saying Jesus is wrong. The gathering in Matthew 24:31 is the gathering of the Jews living at the time in nations around the world to Israel. It is not a resurrection of the dead in Matthew 24:31, nor the translation of the living. And you have yet to acknowledge...
  12. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Jesus, not you. Jesus comes from heaven for the rapture/resurrection event before the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act of 2Thessalonians2:4. Jesus at the rapture/resurrection event never touches down on earth, but takes the raptured/resurrected in Christ to heaven -...
  13. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Of course not. I believe that you have misunderstood the timing of the rapture/resurrection event though.
  14. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    The dead in Christ who have died in the past will be resurrected in rapture/resurrection event, and taken to heaven in their redeemed bodies.... while the great tribulation takes place here on earth. That event will take place before the Antichrist goes into the temple, sits, claims to...
  15. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Are you speaking about Christians who are martyred during the great tribulation ? If so, those martyred Christians will be brought back to life in Revelation 20:4-6. It does not say gathered in that text. You still have not acknowledged that Israel over there today is no longer divided...
  16. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    The gathering of the elect in Matthew 24:31 is gathering of living Jews scattered in the nations to the land of Israel. There is no resurrection in Matthew 24:31.
  17. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Not gathered "by the eagles", but the carcasses being feasted upon by the eagles. The eagles gather together, i.e. a flock of eagle picking at the flesh of dead people.
  18. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    The text say the eagles will gather where the carcass is. Jesus is saying that there will be many people who will die during the great tribulation.
  19. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    You said "Peter,Paul and Daniel are scattered in the nations"
  20. Douggg

    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Peter, Paul, and Daniel - their bodies died long ago. And the remains not scattered. You are not getting that Ezekiel 37 the valley of the dry bones vision is symbolic of Israel becoming one nation again, no longer two nations. You are disregarding Ezekiel 37:16-22. 22 And I will make...