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  1. JohnDB

    Judging your mother. Judging your sisters

    I stopped at your Galatians 4 symbolism. A little off to start a journey is a long way off at the end of the journey.
  2. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I study scriptures. I know the mechanics, the languages, the people. I am always amazed at what they say and how they say what they say. The Bible is a miracle. There is a level of complexity to scriptures that is unreproduceable in today's world. Although many have tried, they have...
  3. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    It does say its complete....you just refuse to believe it. That's all there is to the matter. I don't believe creeds or anything above scripture. Scripture is the basis of our faith. And when it says it's complete...guess what? I believe scriptures over anyone or anything. Especially...
  4. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    And there lies the red line you cannot cross. You have added to and therefore subtracted what has been said by God. The Bible had been complete for thousands of years when Joseph Smith added to it. Signed sealed and delivered. What had fundamentally changed? In EVERY time past when...
  5. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Because you dodged mine by something that sounds like the truth but is not. God, through the agency of Jesus, created ALL. That doesn't mean God is the father of all. (John 1) Jesus told the Pharisees that they had Satan as their father instead of Abraham. And yet.... Abraham was indeed...
  6. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Your side stepping of the question is highly revealing. You use names like they are tags instead of titles. And with this cleverly sounding system of theology, Mormons have created a different religion and God. They are not the same. It's not a theology test. It's a difference of gods...
  7. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    You can play all the games you like but I'm not. The dead cannot converse with the living through some bit of paper. And you can post all the scriptures you want about demon possession from the New Testament. But just so you know....Jesus was pretending to be an exorcist. No one in his...
  8. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    Exactly! I was breaking down the various resources and mechanics to decipher scripture that surround Ephesians 5:18. "Do not be full of wine but instead be full of the Holy Spirit" And I went through the mechanics of how this was in actuality more of a summary statement than another...
  9. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    Why? Do you not know the scriptures? How do you have a faith when you do not know God's words to us? This is not an obscure story or even unpopular. The verses are some of the most read and reread ones out there.
  10. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Is Jesus a brother to Satan? (Yes or no please) If "yes" then it's not so much a theology test but a different Jesus that is based on ours but vastly different.
  11. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    Personally, I think they are laughable and ridiculous. As if some bit of printed paper is capable of bridging between the dead and the living. When Jesus quite clearly said its impossible. And if Jesus said it's impossible....except for Him....the rest are simply playing games.
  12. JohnDB

    Addressing the the ethical eating argument

    I still reply with Colossians 2:23. It's only an appearance of wisdom. Meaning it is not.
  13. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    On the positive side, Mormons do tend to have high moral standards and promote such lifestyles. They aren't promoting debauchery or moral turpitude. And indeed there are huge benefits of having a cohesive population with high moral standards. It's worked for thousands of years to the...
  14. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I'm explaining my personal experience with living in and among LDS for over a decade including teen years and young adult. Also seeing the headlines in the newspaper. Granted, some of this stuff probably comes from offshoot denominations of the main LDS church but it's not like I was into...
  15. JohnDB

    Populist Viewpoint vs Verified Facts

    Yeah....well they have those Palestinians entrenched there. Every other Arab nation has tossed them out and they (along with Iran) have been responsible for all the unrest in that part of the world. And that trouble has spread to the Houthis in Yemen currently as well as other places. It's...
  16. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    LDS used to practice asceticism..... Drinks like tea or coffee and Coca-Cola were verboten. Same with alcoholic beverages as well. But then a huge number of members owned a bottling plant so sodas became accepted....then tea....and now coffee. Not supposed to have Irish coffee. Not one...
  17. JohnDB

    Addressing the the ethical eating argument

    Cattle are carbon neutral. Sorry....big study just released a report on this. PETA People Eating Tasty Animals. But it's usually this same crowd who also champions abortions as well....total hypocrisy. The women accidentally get knocked up during one of their sit-ins or rallies and then...
  18. JohnDB

    Teffillim or Phylacteries.

    There are certain sections of Old Testament Law that stated these words are supposed to be bound to your head and arms....we take this as figurative language but Jews took to mean literally. So there are boxes that are used to do this with. Seen them used myself in my travels. Here is a...
  19. JohnDB

    Populist Viewpoint vs Verified Facts

    Israel has had peace....it currently doesn't. It's an annoying place to visit for a variety of reasons but crime is not one of them. It's citizens are extremely annoying....but if you can overlook them and their money grubbing ways...then it's a nice vacation albeit more expensive than most...