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What you need to do is get a little context. The 144k FIRSTFRUITS PRECEDE the JEWS gathered in vs 14 ( ahem...not by Jesus in power and glory as a warrior which is tge ACTUAL second coming) Firstfruit JEWS. JEWISH ONLY FIRSTFRUITS. That automatically REQUIRES a Jewish MAIN HARVEST. But it...

Not only that but lot and Noah were both saved pretrib. Jesus did not mis speak when he said "before the flood one taken the other left behind watch and be ready" We see postribs butcher EVERY RAPTURE VERSE, then high five themselves while standing in a pile of error.

Most postribbers MUST incorporate the "one coming " error. I suppose they were forced to erroneously add that as they painted themselves into an impossible corner. Hard to wiggle out of that conundrum that their theory put them in. Plus all rapture verses are Peace time, everyday life...

3.5 years is true. It is a segment of tge 7 year trib. We get 7 years from Daniel. 7 year great trib as Jesus called it.

Rev 14 is not the rapture of the church, nor is it the second coming on white horses. Acts one " like manner" can not POSSIBLY fit what you present as a coming in war and power to a destroyed planet.( ahem, conversely it is OPPOSITE your smoking gun) Matt 24 "before the flood one taken/ left"...

Most everything is incoherent to you. You are so busy obsessing over every word I say, confusion has become your portion. You are getting crazy in here. You need a hobby or something.

All that you posted depends on a phrase. "Last trump" Ironically you ( and all postribbers) never look at rapture verses. Instead you are obsessed with thumping the rapture verses. It is futile trying to come up with one word smoking guns when the BIBLE SAYS "ALL DIE who refuse tge mark"...

You seriously need a break before you blow a gasket in your venom and hatred. Your tired of being owned by others in your doctrine that I have blown apart. That is why you hate any challenge.. You made a HUGE INVESTMENT in a doctrine that took you to the desert and died right out from under you.

Stupid post. Get a life jr.

QUOTE ""13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power...

We are all in here blabbing away. All of us. I assume you are a born again believer. But apparently you hate your brother in Christ. That is the difference. I see your salvation as NOT THREATENED by your eschatology. You see believers who disagree with your doctrine as people from hell.

I hope you are not trying to make a case that at the rapture the earth is burned to the ground and the sky is burned and removed. Instead Peter is giving limited revelation. No matter what your position in eschatology is, You can not string those events into one, and we do come away with Peter...

Re read it. They WENT OUT to Meet him. Then they did not go back where the virgins ORIGINATED ( their home), they went to the marriage chamber with Jesus and the door (to the room) was shut. But it gets worse for a force fit postrib rapture, because the setting is normal life, buying and...

I would add that the beast and the false prophet are basically devils in men's costumes. Even the white horse rider at the start of the 7 yr trib is basically a devil in a Jesus costume.

Well sort of. It is 2 ways. I can see things in the Spirit without a bible knowledge. Then open the bible, and the bible confirms what I was shown from heaven. *******or******** I can see what is written. The pure word, without pollutants , omissions, additives, or a need to torture it to...

The bible declares EMPHATICALLY that all died refusing the mark during the reign of the beast " the antichrist" . Daniel speaks of the last week. ( 7 years) Your doctrine is actually based on a phrase "last trump". Psssst...the last trump is blown every year at the feast of trumpets. I show...

What a nasty man you are. Calling those disagreeing with you worse than wimps, to the point of dragging God himself into your nasty view of the body of Christ who dare to disagree with your grand canyon leaps. You definately need some Jesus time desperately. Take a chill pill with Jesus. Those...

Maybe include all RAPTURE VERSES. You ONLY posted a verse that says after the trib angels gather saints In HEAVEN. Of course that means all of them are in heaven where they are gathered to mount white horses. Ahem.... they got there in the pretrib rapture exactly as Jesus told you. Thank you...

Lol Every rapture verse is pretrib setting.