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I don’t know what you mean historicism didn’t pan out. It fits perfectly with the exegesis of the prophecies and the historical accounts and parallels the beast from the sea/little horn. And as to the future, that’s relative to ones’ perspective. From Daniel’s and the Apostles perspective the...

Daniel 2:44 states "in the days of these kings." The strengths and weaknesses of the Roman Empire are hardly "kings" in any sense. The greatest exegesis that conforms to the historical accounts interprets the feet in the same way the horns are interpreted in chapter 7: the Germanic kings that...

So is Rome Babylon, or Jerusalem. Make up your mind. Revelation 17 affirms the whore IS Babylon, not that some other entity whored with Babylon. Revelation reveals the merchant of the earth are made rich from the power of Babylon’s luxurious living, Revelation 18: 3 For all nations have drunk...

This doesn't address the exegesis or the historical accounts. Revelation reveals the merchant of the earth are made rich from the power of Babylon’s luxurious living, Revelation 18: 3 For all nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, and the kings of the earth have...

Argue against what? You didn't say anything. If you have an argument or question about my post, I'm waiting. It's my thread, not yours.

Care to elaborate?

Babylon is a mystery, but it doesn't solve the enigma saying Jerusalem whored with Babylon! As Revelation 17 states, the whore IS Babylon, not that another entity whored with Babylon. That's eisegesis.

Revelation 17 states the whore IS Babylon, not that some other entity whored with Babylon. Poor exegesis.

Peter is addressing a region, not the Babylon in Daniel's time. It makes no sense in the narration of the Revelation; the region did not sit on seven mountains (Revelation 11:9), nor was it the place where Christ was crucified (Revelation 11:8).

The papacy didn't exist in Peter's time, so how could he have related mystery Babylon symbolizes the papacy?

The interpretation that Babylon represents the papacy comes from the Historicists, Protestant interpretation of Revelation. While the interpretation that the papacy fulfills the little horn in Daniel and the beast rising from the sea in Revelation is based on sound exegesis and historical...

The same arguments between preterists and futurists over the correct interpretation of Babylon have been going on since the Jesuits conceived the eschatologies. Let me indulge in a critique of these eschatologies from an older view, the historicists’ view. Historicism rose with Protestantism...

Revelation 18 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality." NASB It was the Romans that made the merchants...

Good posts. Are you coming from a historicists' perspective?