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  1. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Since there seems to be a lot of people on this form I am going to issue a dire warning! If you develop a condition that is extremely painful or need major surgery, it best to get medial care outside of the United States because the US medical system does not prescribe the appropriate pain...
  2. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I get that and know that. The New Testament indicates that Christ is the Creator God and in Old Testament Yahweh makes it absolutely clear that He is the only God in the Old Testament. And the Mosaic Law would have them kill anybody if they preached different. Contradiction? Misunderstanding...
  3. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I believe in God Almighty. Now if you can specifically show me something in Old Testament that Yeshua did by name then we can talk about it. Until then, I am comfortable with the fact that we believe differently. I do not think that Yahweh is a liar and He makes it clear that He is the only God...
  4. Grailhunter

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    I believe in… God the Father…Yahweh…God Almighty…Creator of Heaven and Earth and Adam and Eve….. God the Son…Yeshua…the Son of God…Messiah…Savior. The Holy Spirit…the unnamed God…helper…guide… teacher… strengthener….nurturer….. I believe the word Trinity is three Gods in unity. Tri-unity Triune...
  5. Grailhunter

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    Why would someone that does not believe that Christ is a God want to believe they are a Christian? Why would they believe that a man could save them from Hell? Why would they believe that a man could open the gates of Heaven to humanity? Why would someone believe a man would be the one judging...
  6. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    You are correct the Hebrew word for God is Elohim The Greek word for God is "theos But keep in mind that the Hebrews/Israelites very seldom used this word because it is generic term for God,god,goddess. But that is how it reads in your Bible. Ever heard of the word Tetragrammaton YHWH. At one...
  7. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    A lot of times the Apostles would refer to Yahweh as God and Christ as Lord. Gods that were Father and Son. testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Act 20:21 Therefore, having been justified by faith, 1we have bpeace with God...
  8. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Who has the awareness and comprehension to define that Yeshua is or is not a God? Who understands what it is to be a God? Who is qualified to answer that? How many angels can fit on the end of a needle? What is God made out of? What is the substance of God? Can a human sit on a throne to the...
  9. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The McKenzie Bible Dictionary explains it this way.... “The Trinity of God is defined by the Church as the belief that in God there are three persons who subsist in one nature. The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly or formally a...
  10. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I am proud to say that there has only been so many arguments and rudeness on this incredibly popular thread. We have just continued a discussion that has been going on for 2000 years. Pondering and thinking about the Trinity and you are right, whatever formula it is we will never fully...
  11. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I worship at churches that have a good spirit and enthusiastic worship….big and small. My favorites are Holy Ghost churches but the rest, Baptists, Methodists, non-denominationals---etc. Most everything but Jehovah’s Witness or Calvinists.
  12. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I am big on worship and church. I worship with and active with several different denominations. I am an educated theologian and don’t find any of them perfect. Most denominations have accumulated too many man-made sins. But I concentrate on loving Christians and enjoy standing with them and...
  13. Grailhunter

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    At this point I think it is clear that we disagree on that.
  14. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The Holy Spirit is a God. And Yahweh has a spirit and it holy. And the confusion factor caused by not divulging the name of the Holy Spirit. Defining the Deity with loose terms….spirits….Gods…persons. Using words to define something that cannot be defined or comprehended. It is best to refer the...
  15. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Not knowing the language and its characteristics is the author of confusion. Imaginative interpretation can spawn a lot false beliefs.
  16. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I have run into people that reduce the Trinity to a duo. The Holy Spirit not being a God but rather Yahweh’s spirit.
  17. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The Holy Spirit is the Living witness and is our guide in all things
  18. Grailhunter

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The scriptures do not define who "our" is and people like to read into that anything they want. As a whole the word Ĕlōhīm is a loose term. People love loose terms because they can make them what they want. But this one is a typical loose term because it can mean singular or plural or false...