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  1. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You just listed a bunch of vague claims with no exegesis, no verses, and no coherence. That’s not Bible study — that’s a temper tantrum. Meanwhile, I gave you 1 Corinthians 15:23 and 1 Thessalonians 4:15–16, which clearly say: “Each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at His coming...
  2. The Gospel of Christ

    Reading but Never Seeing: Why Scripture Remains Hidden to the Lost

    You mean these guys? Yes, I see these demons on the TV all the time.
  3. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You're confusing your system with Scripture. Revelation 14:14 doesn’t support your timeline — and it certainly doesn’t describe a “Jewish rapture” or a mid-point secret event. The passage is a symbolic picture of final judgment, not a separate event squeezed between two comings. “Behold, a...
  4. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You guys can’t even agree on your own theory. One of you says the Jews are defended on earth when Christ returns with His angels (i.e. stays on the ground). The other says Revelation 14 is about Jews being harvested to heaven by Jesus sitting on a cloud. So which is it? Are Jews staying on...
  5. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You're conflating poetic comfort with prophetic sequence. 1 Thessalonians 4 does not describe a separate, secret “first return” — it describes the return of Christ, period. Paul uses apocalyptic language: “The Lord Himself will descend... with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with...
  6. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Respectfully, you’re not describing the Gospel — you’re parroting Scofield. The Bible never says Christ is coming twice for two separate groups. There’s no “secret rapture” followed by a later return. That idea is absent from church history before the 1800s and has to be imported into the text...
  7. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You guys are splitting hairs over something the text already answers. Let’s stick to what is written in 1 Corinthians 15: “But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at His coming, those who belong to Him.” (1 Cor 15:23) No mention of multiple comings. No secret raptures. No...
  8. The Gospel of Christ

    We Follow the King. You Follow a Corpse.

    This entire deception — this 77-year charade — is no different than the current “trans” delusion. If 500 Japanese citizens “convert” to Judaism — fine. But don’t expect me to start calling them “ethnic descendants of Abraham” or “God’s chosen people” just because they adopted a religion...
  9. The Gospel of Christ

    We Follow the King. You Follow a Corpse.

    “Nowhere in the NT will you find a direct statement that says true Israel is the Church…” Wrong. You just don’t like what it says. Let me give you the direct statements — and none of them are butchered. They’re word-for-word: “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” — Romans...
  10. The Gospel of Christ

    We Follow the King. You Follow a Corpse.

    So let me get this straight: You just said “True Jews are saved Jews and part of the body of Christ.” And yet you still claim the Church is not Israel? That’s theological double-speak. Paul literally said: “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” — Romans 9:6 “If you belong to...
  11. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You’ve now created at least four comings of Christ: 1. Rapture of the Church (1 Thess. 4) 2. “Cloud coming” for Jews (Rev. 14) 3. Second coming on white horses (Rev. 19) 4. “Acts 1:11 style” mystery phase with clouds and entourage? That’s not theology — that’s fan fiction with Scofield...
  12. The Gospel of Christ

    Christ Died for All

    If Jesus, Paul, or Peter were on this forum right now preaching the actual New Testament — most Scofield-brainwashed dispensationalists like you would accuse them of antisemitism and blasphemy. You’d call Jesus antisemitic for saying “You are of your father the devil” (John 8:44). You’d call...
  13. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    Wow. You just compared quoting Scripture in context to following Adolf Hitler? That’s not a rebuttal — that’s a pathetic smear tactic from someone who’s clearly out of arguments and hiding behind emotional slander. I don’t follow Adolf. I follow Jesus Christ — the Jewish Messiah. And He said...
  14. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    Let’s make this clear upfront: “Of course you can find verses that sound like they support Catholic doctrine — if you ignore context, redefine terms, and elevate tradition over Scripture.” But when I say “unbiblical,” I don’t mean “you can’t find words that look similar.” I mean: “The apostles...
  15. The Gospel of Christ

    Christ Died for All

    So now you've already been forced to admit that calling out False (WHITE) Israel™ isn’t “racist” for a Western European… So to keep the fake racist narrative alive, you just shift gears — from white Ashkenazi Jews to blacks, Mexicans, Asians, and whatever other “Nazi hero” fantasy you can...
  16. The Gospel of Christ

    Christ Died for All

    How can Italians, Germans, or English people be “racist” for criticizing Ashkenazi Jews... who are also German, Polish, Russian, and just as white? Answer: They can’t. Because this isn’t racism — it’s theology. Criticizing a belief system, a false covenant, or a secular political state isn’t...
  17. The Gospel of Christ

    Christ Died for All

    You said: “Anyone who criticizes Jews is being taught by the devil.” Let’s correct that with Scripture — not sentiment. “They are enemies concerning the gospel, but as touching election, beloved for the fathers’ sake.” — Romans 11:28 That verse doesn’t say Israel gets a theological pass. It...
  18. The Gospel of Christ

    Christ Died for All

    You’re trying to justify modern private revelation by pointing to a God-ordained wartime judgment from a theocratic era 3,400 years ago — as if that gives you permission to trust whatever “inner voice” you hear now. Let’s be clear: Joshua wasn’t operating on gut feelings. He wasn’t following...
  19. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You said Revelation 14 is a rapture of Jews. No. Revelation 14 is a symbolic vision of the 144,000 sealed Jewish believers, yes — but they are standing on Mount Zion with the Lamb (v.1), not flying off into the sky. That’s earthly, not heavenly. And the rest of Revelation 14 includes harvest...
  20. The Gospel of Christ

    We Follow the King. You Follow a Corpse.

    You said: “Time will tell who’s right.” It already has. “He is the mediator of a better covenant, established on better promises.” — Hebrews 8:6 “In saying ‘a new covenant,’ He has made the first obsolete.” — Hebrews 8:13 The covenant in Jeremiah 31 is not some postponed future fantasy — it...