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  1. JLB

    First the Rapture and then the Great Tribulations

    7 Angels wrote - One of the significant things any interpreter of the book of Revelation will notice is the abrupt shift in focus which takes place between chapters three and four. Chapters two and three, which describe “the things which are” (Rev. Rev. 1:19+), are focused entirely on the...
  2. JLB

    First the Rapture and then the Great Tribulations

    We are actually reffering to the biblical Great Tribulation - 15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who...
  3. JLB

    The Rapture is True and Pre Trib

    [email protected] wrote - The last time anyone looked it up, Jesus was a Jew born into a Jewish family in a Jewish nation... The last time I looked, The Lord Jesus made a covenant with Abraham the Gentile of which we are grafted in Christ! If you get right down to it, Judaism came from the...
  4. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Bob wrote - The veil was torn and at the moment of Yeshua's death and it dramatically symbolized that His sacrifice ... Bob, The word's of this prophecy we are discussing are real. The events that this prophecy predicts are real. You and I know what The Lord's sacrifice for our sins...
  5. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Saint wrote, However the point is moot because the temple was made desolate with the crucifixion of Yeshua…"In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" refers specifically to the fact that the Yeshua would put a stop to all sacrifice when He voluntarily gave...
  6. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Saint wrote - Yes Yeshua was crucified during the 70th week; actually at the middle of the 70th week. He was ordained at the end of the 69th week and His ministry began with the starting of the 70th week; His ministry lasted 3 1/2 years, that is why we have only 3 1/2 years remaining, the last...
  7. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Saint wrote - Yes Yeshua was crucified during the 70th week; actually at the middle of the 70th week. He was ordained at the end of the 69th week and His ministry began with the starting of the 70th week; His ministry lasted 3 1/2 years, that is why we have only 3 1/2 years remaining, the last...
  8. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Saint, In your understanding, was Jesus crucified during the 70th week? Thanks, JLB
  9. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    I'm sure my understanding of this version is obscure. Did I at least get the part right about Him destroying the people? Thanks, JLB Saint, In your understanding, was Jesus crucified during the 70th week? Thanks, JLB
  10. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Bob, I am glad that you found a translation that fits your theology brother. It all makes sense now, after reading this translation. v. 26 After Jesus was crucified,[ the Leader who hath come doth destroy the people;] He destroyed the people. Then, He strengthened a covenant for 7 years...
  11. JLB

    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

    When Did Jesus Say He Would Return? At Night ! 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in...
  12. JLB

    Who is Israel?

    HOW ARE GOD THE FATHER AND YESHUA ONE. We try to reason about spiritual matters from a natural perspective. The Spirit is likened to water. For out of you belly shall flow rivers of living water, this He spake of The Spirit. So from that I would like to illustrate: Imagine two glass's...
  13. JLB

    Who is Israel?

    'Thus says the Lord God.' He who hears, let him hear; and he who refuses, let him refuse; for they are a rebellious house. Ezekial 3:27
  14. JLB

    Who is Israel?

    The Word is the expression of The Will of The Father. The Word is Manifested by the power of The Spirit. It was the will of The Father to bring forth Light in the beginning. The Word spoke the light into the darkness and light was manifested by the power of The Spirit. This is how the...
  15. JLB

    Who is Israel?

    Your body and soul are not equal, but your soul expresses itself through your body. They are only equal in the sense that they are both you. Excellent!
  16. JLB

    Receiving The Revelation 16:15 Scripture

    Here's the scary part - 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be...
  17. JLB

    Who is Israel?

    Retrobyter wrote - You guys are quick to point out the "I am" part of verse 58, but y'ou NEGLECT all the other points I've highlighted for you. Yeshua` haMashiach Elohiym - Jesus the Messiah (Christ) of God - is NOT identical to the Father! He may be a reflection of Him, and He may be totally...
  18. JLB

    Who is Israel?

    For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again: "I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son"? 6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him." Hebrews 1:5,6 When you here...
  19. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    That's not the question. Answer the question as I have asked it. Tell me to what time period is Jesus referring when He made the following statement - The days of the disciples or the last days - 15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet...
  20. JLB

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Retrobyter wrote - Happy to oblige, brother! The problem is you did not oblige. I asked you a very simple, straight-forward question and you did not answer. I will ask you again - Tell me to what time period is Jesus referring when He made the following statement - The days of the...