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The abomination of desolation was a "FUTURE" event associated with the "END OF THE AGE" as spoken of by Jesus. Obviously the 70th week is also. Matthew 24:15 15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever...

Daniel 9:26 26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. The events of v. 26...

Retrobyter wrote - Matt 23:37-39 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left...

Retrobyter wrote - I've come to realize that the "tribulation" is NOT the same time period as the "70th Seven" of Dani'el, neither the "seven" nor half of the "seven." It is a much longer time period than that! It began in the first century after Yeshua` left the Jews "desolate" and will...

Revelation 6:15-17 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him...

Which would make the wailing wall a figment of everybody's imagination.

Revelation 7:9-14 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud...

Retrobyter wrote - Technically, it's NO. Strictly speaking, staying within a context is staying within the chapter or even the surrounding chapters within a book. When one strays to another author, even an author under inspiration, one assumes that they are saying the same thing, but that...

Saint wrote - There will be a translation of the mature righteous at the beginning of the 3 1/2 year great tribulation. Define translation of the mature righteous ... Thanks, JLB

Your theory flies in the face of scripture. 1 Corinthians 15:20-24 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in...

Revelation 3:7-13 7 "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,'These things says He who is holy, He who is true, "He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens": 8 I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can...

All the more reason to stay in context brother. Could you give an example from Matthew 24 of some of what you are referring to above, that we may discuss it. Thanks and God Bless you, JLB

Thanks Mark, I am beginning to see how you come up with alot of the different things you believe. Could you please answer with a yes or no. Do you believe The Day of The Lord to be when Jesus Christ returns to earth after the tribulation? Thanks for your answer, although I was hoping...

Justaname, you wrote- The rapture is a real event, in fact the Thessalonians believed they had missed it in relation to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. Paul assures them they did not miss anything. So that I might understand what you are saying here, I would like to ask you a question. Do you...

Perhaps we can get somewhere if I break it down better, as you are asking me to do. I will list all of my steps in reaching this conclusion. Perhaps you can tell me which you agree with, and which you disagree with, so we can find where our viewpoints separate from each other. Matthew...

Mark, The simple Truth that scripture teaches is The Return of Jesus Christ is Glorius and Very Very Visible. Matthew 24:29-31 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of...

Mark wrote - 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. This does not say anything about a resurrection of the dead, or of the dead in Christ. 2 thessalonians 2:1-4 1 Now...

Mark, My discussion topic is the ressurection of the dead in Christ. Could you please answer the question with an agree or disagree answer. Thanks, JLB Here is what these scriptures reveal to me: The resurrection of the dead in Christ will take place before the rapture. The resurrection of...

Mark, you wrote - Quote I think that the Olivette Discourse is meant to be taken exactly as stated, that Jesus will return, and will sit upon His throne, and that certain items of business will be transacted. If that is true, then the gathering of the elect in Matt. 24:31 cannot include the...

Hi Mark, You wrote - Personally, I think that this is not the correct application of the quote you bring: If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? John 3:12 For instance, Jesus told the Jews they would be expelled from...