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That is a common mistake: implying that Jesus had no beginning because he already existed at the beginning. If I say: "I was a Jehovah's Witness before you were born", or "I was in the Soviet Union at the beginning of its downfall" ... do any of these expressions mean that I have always...

Paul is talking there. Paul never considered Jesus to be God. While speaking to non-Jews in Athens, he utilized rhetoric about an "unknown God" whom the pagans feared, prompting them to erect an altar to avoid wrath. Paul explained to them that this unknown God was actually the Father of...

I think you didn't actually read the texts. Rev. 21:5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” 6 And he said to me: “They have come to pass! I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga, the beginning and the...

In Rev. 1:8 is God the one talking, not Jesus. Jesus is not called with the term Almighty, because Jesus has a God. The only one who can be Almighty is the God of gods: the Father. Meditate in the account in Rev. 5. It starts like this: Rev. 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of the One seated...

Again: that is false as demonstrated in the post you just quoted. Please, don't repeat the same. Stop playing and move to the next point. The Scriptures are clear. The triune-godhead is not a teaching of Jesus or any Christian who followed him in the first century.

That Jesus is a god, but not the God that no one has seen. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in the beginning with God. ... 14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as...

You think that is Jesus talking, but it's not. The One talking there is God. In the whole book of Revelation, GOD, the Majesty of the Universe, is sitting on the throne. In chapter 5 Jesus, the Lamb, take a roll from his hand. After that, we read: Rev. 5:9 And they sing a new song, saying...

At the bottom of the page is the translation of each word in English. Most older manuscripts have "only-begotten god" instead "only-begotten Son" in John 1:18.

That is false. How could it be possible for God to demand that his servants know him and yet be a mystery to prevent them from doing so? John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. If God is a mystery as...

The apostle John, the one who lived longer, until the end of the 1st century, never believed in a "triune-godhead". In the year 96 he wrote about Jesus: Rev. 1:6 (...) he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.

You can visit this website and consult John 1:18 in some manuscripts, and you'll learn what you don't know about that verse. https://greekcntr.org/collation/index.htm?v=43001018

Read the whole chapter: John 1:14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth. (...) 18 No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at...

He did not say "I am more pre-eminent than Abraham," but rather "Before Abraham was, I was." The passage needs to be twisted to change the meaning like that. The dialogue is exactly about how long Jesus has been alive. Before Abraham? YES. That is the point that Jesus is making to them, to...

That's ridiculous, sorry. Have you ever seen a Jew who believed that Genesis speaks of a multiple God? Trinitarians have gone to too much trouble in their eagerness to find something in the bible to support that erroneous doctrine they inherited from apostate Christendom after the 2nd century...

That is not the correct reading of the story. You are denying exactly what Jesus is clearly saying. It is clearly about pre-existence. That is not the correct understanding of the clear statements of Jesus about his pre-existence. There is another thread I opened about it. You're more than...

There is not any triune-Godhead among the original Christian teachings. The first Christians were Jews. We are talking about the apostles, including Matthew, Peter and John, the family of Jesus, including his half-brothers James and Jude, and also about Paul, who had been a fervent Pharisee. A...

Back in topic: ANSWER HERE: John 2:13 Now the Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 He found in the temple those selling cattle and sheep and doves, and the money brokers in their seats. 15 So after making a whip of ropes, he drove all those with the sheep and...

You seem to be angry too. Since I don't like to talk to angry people, I'll temporarily send you to make him company in my ignore list. Bye. :quitit

I don't like personal conflict when I talk about the Scriptures, so to avoid it, I'll put you on my ignore list. Welcome to the existential void. :Lockedthread Bye. :waves:

You seem to be very angry because managers of this website allow posters to discuss this topic. Just relax. If you are so sure of that doctrine, you may have a lot of chances to prove it with the Scriptures. Don't take it personal, because if you are wrong, it will benefit you, if others are...