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I think the message about God in this is that God really doesn't want anyone in hell but he hates evil so much that he to put them there by their own choice.

Thanks for your reply and thoughts. I'm confused by what you wrote, whether we actually agree or not but it doesn't really matter. I just wanted to say that, yes Satan is an insect to God but I noticed God has a pattern of the "law of opposites or balancing forces" so God had to have or there...

I didn't say that! That sick thought came from you, not me! though, that brings to mind that I think that since I've noticed that God applies the law of opposites or balancing forces in the Word, there might be violence in hell vs peace in heaven and there might be sickness and disease in hell...

Hi Randy, It sounds to me like the wicked/unrighteous will be suffering eternally because if they were instantly burned up and removed forever, they wouldn't have the time to, weep/cry or be knashing their teeth, which also implies to be in the flesh from these two descriptions, in order to weep...

What's your view then, in contrast to mine or what I've said or thought/believe? Thanks. If you believe differently, why didn't you tell me after saying here that it is helpful and you disagree? Thanks.

Though it also can be said that death no longer exists, just people "living" in out darkness and those "living" in the light in heaven (not to say that they don't have day and night in heaven but speaking of spiritual light), so then it could be possible that only their minds will be thirsting...

Since we know that Jesus conquers sin and death once and for all, are we to think that death still exists but it's under His feet (in outer darkness) or that death no longer exists in the future? I think, rather, for there to still be "outer darkness" and fire (why is it described as fire by the...

Anyway, that's what I think but I don't really know or exactly know what will happen in hell but according to the bible, the Word of God, it is real, very real just like heaven is real. Even I'm scared to quote the scriptures! Terrified! I'm scared I don't make it even when everything or almost...

but it says "eternal fire" so I think if you're in fire then it's some kind of disease of inflammation and pain, not talking about devices but just like when God brought on plagues on people in the OT, diseases and gave them a chance to repent and said if they turn from their ways and repent...

@Randy Kluth This is the Word of God which explains it. So yes, God is merciful and compassionate at first to everyone and longsuffering and Jesus has taught us on the Sermon on the Mount that we are blessed if we are merciful for we will also receive mercy but this: Hebrews 10:26 NLT Dear...

I'm not sure about that since it says in the bible, there will be weeping which seems to imply they're still in the flesh crying from their eyes and 'knashing of "teeth"' which means they're still in the flesh as they still have teeth that didn't decay. I changed what I wrote in my post after I...

Well I know in Matthew 25:35-46 NASB at least what I read there, there will be eternal punishment into an eternal fire for the unrighteous and it also says in the bible, there will be weeping and knashing of teeth there so it's a conscious torment, eternity in hell. Anyway, if you don't agree...

some people seem to have no compassion from what they say, maybe they were brought up in an unloving family. I don't know..

So I think you were "born again" from the time you felt you needed to repent or else you'll live in utter failure and shame as there was sanctification and because of that, you feel you cannot willfully/intentionally sin anymore, right? When I was an agnostic, I wanted to go to church and went...

the bible talks about a place called hell and an eternal one for the wicked/unrighteous, including believers and how there will be weeping and knashing of teeth so it sounds like a conscious torment like perhaps there will be diseases in hell relating to inflammation and pain like fire. I don't...

Thanks. I like how you put it. Sounds exactly right! No one "born" of God 'practises' sin, not that we never sin as there is the sanctification process/unintentional sins but that Christians by nature do not want to sin, they have the Holy Spirit residing in them and therefore a new nature that...

"Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?' Then...

That is why I was talking about believing in OSNAS which is scriptural but that after you're "born again", from my experience it seems like you're always Saved because it feels like I'm surrounded by a container which I call the sheep's pen since the bible talks about something like that and I...

I see it like this. When you're born again, God puts His Spirit, the Holy Spirit, in you. Then you start to have a good conscience toward God in all your ways and I also feel "forced" to stay where I am and that I can go absolutely no where else and that I can never leave God. I don't know if...

..I also believe in, once "born again", always Saved. Sounds confusing doesn't it? It's the conclusion I've come up to but I'm still confused. Any thoughts on clearing up this confusion? Let's discuss. Thanks.