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it all depends on whose truth. all you posted is what you think a church should be like. i gave you scriptures of what the church is and how it functions a it take a pastor and a congregation to grow together . it does not matter if he comes from with in our outside. a pastor is only...

lol sorry not catholic i think your a member of the Church of itchy ears . please tell us what we want to hear o_O

not been belligerent .i have spoken in the truth everything i have read there has been some merit to.. but the rest is ideology of what unsatisfied Church goers wanted. you talked about meeting from house to house .but failed to mention Antioch . the past the 4 gospels the Bible...

lets not forget about ANTIOCH 2ND if your going to say you know what your talking about. you need to be qualified in that area .. you would not ask me to build a house because i am not a carpenter . tell you what no disrespect but until you been called by God to preach or even pastor...

that's NOT what i asked to be a preacher one has to be called of GOD read your Bible . not every one holds the same office or has the same gift Ephesians 4 : 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and " some, pastors and teachers; " 12 For the...

the apostle paul wrote 1 Corinthians 4:15 “For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.” there is hardly any fathers in the Lord just those who think they know it

i am not angelicin i am evangelistic

did they try to get to know him or he try to get to know the flock? they are trained with that degree how to pastor .the Holy spirit leads us.. nothing wrong witha degree provided they use it being led of the spirit

first off i NEVERA SKED YOU IF YOU HAD a seminary degree did i? 2nd you bet we have a difference a Big difference just like a marriage the man and wife have to grow together in order for the marriage to work. the husband is the head of the family. the works with his wife on...

your getting close to the truth. certainly if the pastor/preacher is not preaching Bible. something should be said but a true man of God will stay n the word. BTW i seen this backroom meetings the pastor got to close to home in the message . btw i also have seen these board...

i have no objection to with in provided he is called but a pastor who is sent from outside. can have more freedom to preach what needs to be preached. he dont know just what the spirit leads him to say. try this again are you a pastor/preacher who has been called by God?

a pastor is sent not hired

but they can .. curious have you ever been a pastor one called of God

psst so can leaders it goes on every day/ you are describing a hireling .

umm the pastor is the shepherd/preacher you are getting into the office of the Deacons

perhaps lets NOT forget the families who have say in the Church. they hold all the major offices

there has to be a leader . the pastor is in charge of the preaching it is he who stands in greater judgment for what he teaches. it was peter who preached at Pentecost. paul started Churches then placed a leader. the cong has a say in the functions of the Church

a good pastor friend of mine once said the Church had a better band than the rock bands did.. when we focus more on praise and worship than the preaching of the word. Churches lose focus. its hard time for churches they have not recovered from the shut down from covid

even non denoms have structure you cant have 30 different leaders teaching 30 different things . where is the stuffiness of org religion

as in what it does sound like you had a bad church experience. Once again clarity