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Before abraham was (existed) I am (ego eimi, literally I I AM. or I always was. actually if you look on the OT septuigint, It is the name God gave to moses when moses asked his name. Whats amazing, is those he said it to fell back from the blasphemy, for even they knew he claimed to Be God...

1. I never said he saw God in his full glory 2. Jesus" or the son of man" came in many forms. and people say him, Abraham even fed him. And Adam walked side by side with him. The fact is however. no one has seen the father.. But they have seen His son..

so he is titled God with us. but he is not God. dude give it up. I can listen and discuss with others. but you have nothing.. I am done

We have. The fact you can not see it does not mean we have not provided mountains of evidence. again, If you do not see it. thats not on us..

No, The burden is on you. You would not believe me anyway. I think you have proved this.

Your wrong

Matt 4: 10, you shall worhip the lord your God and only him Proskyneo - to worship. to prostrate oneself, to bow down Matt 14: 33 Those who were in the boat came and worshiped him (christ) Proskyneo - to worship to prostrate oneself. to bow down

Before abraham existed, I always existed. If you think we just go off one verse. you would be mistaken. We take scripture as a whole. Many believe Melchiizedech was the pre-incarnate christ himself. I am not saying I will go this far. But the author is saying Like christ. he has no begining...

But the author of Hebrews said Jesus is like Melchizadech, No beinning or end. no father or mother. The flesh child had a birth. The spirit child has always been

Christ had a part. I think his death was the most important part..

Or how many induviduals claim to be God

The same lord through the prophet Isaiah said this. Isaiah 48:16 “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.” He was there in the begining He never spoke in secret He was...

Same could be said of you. once again, Why is your pride so deep. do you really need to talk this way?

So, Thomas calls Jesus my lord and My God. but that does not mean he declaired him as the son of God. who then do you think he meant? this is what I mean

If you could do that. Then I would relent, And it would not matter, because I do nto need that verse to prove my point. But you can;t do that. so you have your opinion, I have mine. I will not judge you for that opinion of this verse. all i ask is the same from you..

Same could be said of you my friend. In fact. You have not proven me wrong yet. Just given me your opnion. Again, The trinity is a subject that is beyond our comprehension. You can keep posting the 3 = 1 nonsense all you want. All I have to do is prove the HS is an entity, and he is God...

lol Dude, I have so many passages, Any of them by themselves would show the truth. I suggest you stop trying to tell me what I do or do not do.

Adam was perfect at one time After the fall. Yes. We could not see him, But God also can take the form of a man, as the angel of God did with Abraham and others.

whats even more funny is you can not prove that adam did not see God. Now can you explain how adam walked personally with God and he did nto see him

where do you want to start? In the OT. When we are told his name will be Immanuel (god with us) In john where it says he was with God in the beginning, and he was God. In Is 48 where he, the God of Israel. Says he was sent by the father? When he told the pharisees before Abraham existed, he...