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Ok, In your opinion, however over many years of discussions about Christians subjects, I have found it is a waste of time to keep discussions going when someone is entirely opposed to your POV, as nothing ever changes with them or with me. I eventually just stop the conversation as it is...

People quote many verses to support their premill theology too. On ignore.

Why? because your being ridiculous. The Bridegroom returns for the Bride, which is His church, made up of individual believers, not a city. And the city is where God and men dwell together.

Who is the Bridegroom coming for, the city? OR is he coming back for us. Matthew 25 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 Those who were foolish took their...

https://www.christianity.com/church/the-church-is-the-bride-of-christ.html "And the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me, “These are the true words of God.” (Revelation 19:9) “Then the kingdom of heaven will...

Next they will say Christ being the head of the body, is like Frankenstein, whose head was transplanted onto a different body.

John 3 and the Bride of the Bridegroom. The bride is the church and the church is made of individual members Next thing people will say is the city is the church, not the people of the church, and Christ died for the city to bring it to God. 27 John answered and said, “A man can receive...

Right now I am discussing the New Jerusalem in eschatology forum, and a poster pops up and tells me the city is the bride, not the believers who live there. Can you imagine that! He is conflating a couple verses together.

When the angel says he will show the bride, that is the people of God who live in the holy city, not the physical city. The bride is the body of believers inhabit this city. You are conflating v9 and v10 as to assume the city is the bride. If I say to you I am going to show you the people of...

This is the Gospel and it is not complicated theology. 1 Cor 15 chapter describes it well. The end result is belief in Christ, and if you do not hold to the word preached of the gospel, you believed in vain. Many poor and simple people are saved by the gospel. The Risen Christ, Faith’s Reality...

I know, but I am also sticking to the original topic as well as discussing our faith.

Come on people, don't go all weird on the Holy City, where God and man dwell together on the New earth The New Jerusalem is a lovely place, decked out AS a bride adorned for her husband, but it is not THE bride of God. https://www.gotquestions.org/bride-of-Christ.html The imagery and symbolism...

Prophetic Anticipation in the Old Testament Several Old Testament passages foreshadow a re-created earth and a renewed city: • Isaiah 66:22 describes a new heavens and new earth as an enduring place for God’s faithful. • Ezekiel 37 and 48 point to the unification and total restoration of...

The city God has prepared for His people to inhabit is not the bride of Christ, we are the bride of Christ https://biblehub.com/q/what_is_new_jerusalem.htm What is New Jerusalem? Definition and Overview The term “New Jerusalem” refers to the glorious city that Scripture depicts as the eternal...

'As a bride adorned'. It is gussied up and very pure, white, lovely, clean and a nice place. Not a bride, we are the bride of Christ We will live in that city https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_154.cfm Summary After God makes a new heaven and new earth, then the city...

Romans 6:8 The phrase "we died with Christ" refers to the theological concept that believers are spiritually united with Christ in His death and resurrection. This is rooted in scripture, particularly in Romans 6:8, which states, "Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live...

So when we read our life is hidden with Christ in God, we have not ceased, but we have been changed. Even though it says we died, we can think of it as dead to this world of sin. We died with Christ. Think of yourself as dead to sin but alive to God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Col 3 If then...

I think logically it must, but see I don't think the same as you do or say phrase it as you are doing. We are 'conveyed' into the kingdom of His Love and we are perfected spiritually and given age enduring eternal life But we never perish, we do not ever cease, we are changed into the image of...

Preeminence of Christ 9 For this reason we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; 10 that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being fruitful in...

22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the [a]general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus...