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  1. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    There is not a single tribulation action phrase in the 5th Seal. The 5th Seal is after the tribulation of those days. The tribulation of those days has been going on for 1994 years. That tribulation stops at the 5th Seal. The 5th Seal is when the church is glorified as symbolized by putting...
  2. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    There are no Trumpets "in the 7th Seal". The 7th Seal is completed and over. The Trumpets are completely separate. There are 7 Thunders separate from the Trumpets, but happen between the 6th and 7th Trumpets. It is not over at the start of the 7th Trumpet. There are 7 vials before the...
  3. Timtofly

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    The Day of the Lord is compared to a thousand years. How is that missed? You say the Day of the Lord is not literal, nor the thousand years, so nothing is being symbolized at all. How can both symbolize something literal, if you refuse to accept a literal point in this chapter? Not even the...
  4. Timtofly

    The Rapture Cover-up

    This has not been fulfilled. Only Judah was restored post the Babylonian captivity. Israel was not captured by the Babylonians. The ten northern tribes of Israel were scattered throughout the earth several hundred years earlier, and are still not completely restored. That restoration is...
  5. Timtofly

    The six things of Daniel 9:24

    And yet those specific sacrifices still occurred until 70AD. They were not removed in conjunction with Jesus as Prince at the Second Coming. The Messiah did not remove them, as they remained in practice for 40 more years. They were the daily sacrifices Paul and company completed years...
  6. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    Amil was taught in the beginning by heretics. Are you saying that every one else thought they were heretics except Justin Martyr? Why don't you post that Amil was taught by Marcion, who was a recognized heretic, instead of pretending that it came from Scripture? Marcion was teaching Amil...
  7. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    So you lean toward the preterist view of premillennialism like many amil are preterist as well? No one "lives in sin" during the millennium. That is the whole point of Daniel 9:24. Daniel is not told there will be a partial "halfway" fulfillment of the 70 weeks. Only when the 70 weeks are...
  8. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    Except Jesus does not need time to do as you say. The Day of the Lord is not a process with an end result of all things new. The Flood was not making a new earth. The Flood was cleansing away the wicked. The baptism of fire does not destroy the wicked, but does burn up all their works. You...
  9. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    It was put forth by heretical teachers such as Marcion. It seems some here think that by the time of Justin Martyr, it was acceptable by those not thought of as heretical. Most of those who rejected a millennium, did so for carnal reasons. Not sure why Jesus physically on the earth reigning...
  10. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    Nor 24 hours. The newly restored heavens and earth won't last for only 24 hours. It won't take 24 hours to destroy creation, as you imagine. It will happen fast, all at once. Premil view the Day of the Lord as the result of the restoration. Amil view the Day of the Lord as only a period...
  11. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people...
  12. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    Why is this spiritual death in these verses, but not at the 7th Trumpet. "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four...
  13. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    Paul does not say: Christ the only firstfruit, the millennium, Satan's little season, and then comes the end, the Second Coming, either, like you do. You twist Paul's words like every one else, to keep your doctrine afloat.
  14. Timtofly

    A few shall be left

    According to your eschatology, there will be no infants at all in eternity. How can you say babies will be born and age but not grow old? These verses are not talking about aging and dying. These verses are talking about the ability to procreate, and that some children will be considered...
  15. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    David claims he could not ascend on his own. Are you arguing he could? Peter is quoting David from the OT. From the OT perspective he was not ascended. Peter’s point was, that from David, it was not David left in Abraham's bosom, but it was Jesus who was not left in Abraham's bosom...
  16. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    I have never posted that all were in Jerusalem. Your rejection of Scripture would mean only those in Israel will be raptured, and the rest of the world would not be raptured. Your imagination means God is not capable of removing all from Abraham's bosom, or God chose to leave most of...
  17. Timtofly

    Heavenly Jerusalem

    "in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up" Do you think God is going to destroy all those in the heavens including the angels along with the earth and all on the...
  18. Timtofly

    Daniel Chapter 2

    Christ means anointed. Messiah means anointed. Anointed means anointed. Jesus was cutoff after 69 weeks. Jesus left earth in the middle of the 70th week. Because Jesus came as the anointed one for 3.5 years. Jesus will return as ruler=Prince=King for the last 3.5 years of the 70th week...
  19. Timtofly

    Daniel Chapter 2

    If you are asking what the iron and clay means, it says right there in the text. "so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken" This is the 5th kingdom after Rome stopped being a power in the west. Rome still had an eastern leg, so that means the toes were western nations...
  20. Timtofly

    The wine of God's wrath in the cup of His indignation

    Why would you say murdered? That is not in Scripture. They are not even believers until they chop off their heads. That is their point of faith, and redemption out of Adam's dead corruptible flesh. They probably won't even understand that they will be resurrected. They are told they will...