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No one here would be able to tell you definitively without looking at it in person. But if I was to have a guess, and what I think would be most likely is that you have pulled some kind of muscle. I highly doubt you would have a blood clot if you are worried about that. Extremely unlikely.

Some of the scriptures I know off the top of my head. The others I referenced. Not all of them but most of them. My reply was that your interpretation of these selected scriptures are of a Constantinian, dogmatic nature. You would know that however if you did your research on history and the...

You should go and do some study on history. The foundation of Christianity and the influence and oppression of the Roman empire. Christianity today, including your version of interpretation, is a konstantinian version of Christianity. It's dogmatic. I don't say that to be rude, I say it because...

True. I am just including the injustice as an aspect of justice. I do this because the Logos is seen as one thing for both it's parts. Inductive and deductive reasoning. You need to understand that this "force" although duel, happens simultaneously. When the judge as a representative of God...

You are right but you need to remember that there are two forms of justice. There is justice for the violator, this is the sword and the chopping away of what is not pure. Not right. And then there is the justice recieved by the victim, or the justice we receive through faith. These are your...

Lol righto. I don't think the scripture is that elaborate. Sounds like Roman Catholic dogma to me.

Ok so the orthadox church tries to get around this contradiction by saying that Mary had enherent sin but she stayed sinless as she did not sin her whole life through free will. These are all dogmatic beliefs because the truth is, the old churches wanted people to believe that they are sinfull...

She was virgin pure. Sinless.

Correct. But our heart can become pure. Sinless. That's not to say we cannot fall back into sin, we can.

The trick is, that the bible never said that we or people beside Jesus cannot become sinless. A soul that has undergone true salvation is a soul that has become pure. A soul that has become sinless.

I never said that. What I said originally was that "purity" "virgin" and "sinless" are used interchangeably and mean the same thing in a biblical context. This is why Mary had to be pure. So Jesus was not born from sin.

Does Mary give birth to Jesus? If she does, and if she is sinfull, Jesus was born from sin.

The evidence is there. Anyone who makes an informed decision chooses agenced it. Good on you.

Yes. In the scripture it is the Holy Spirit the replaces the Male. The Holy Spirit insaminates her or makes her fertile. So who gives birth to Jesus?

So how can something be born of Male?

I thought the Holy Spirit was male?

Yes, and the key words here are being "born of the spirit". As much as people claim that they are, not everyone is. Being born of spirit is the moment of Salvation. Salvation is freedom. And being free is being like the wind. We become the embodiment of faith.

So Jesus was born from sin then.

The Bible is magical yes, but it's not magical in a literal childish sence. It is magical in Truth and is an award that is bestowed apon you once you have reached the level of intuitive understanding to interpret it properly.

So Jesus was born from sin?