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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Hmmm, sister.....I hope this is just a matter of the limitations of communication......if the Spirit one has received doesn't also and primarily testify and give witness to JESUS CHRIST, then I might wonder what spirit they have. The Holy Spirit didn't come to glorify "us" in this sense, but to...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    After being born again we still continue to need spirit ears to hear the truth, sis. Pro Deo and Amigo are setting forth some wonderful and much needed truths if we have ears to hear it. We must believe in Jesus Christ by faith to be saved/born again......it doesn't say anywhere that we need...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Sister...that is not just talking about being born again but about learning and growing in the faith and understanding. After entering kindergarten class, and thank Jesus for that, but we still have a long way to go, more grades to pass, and much more to learn before graduation.
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    ok I better post this scripture for you, at the risk of being childish again (guilty as charged I hope!): Psa 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Yes indeed, amen.
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Not quite the same.......if that were the case the Son of God wouldn't have needed to die for us and defeat the Enemy. We are not God, He is. There are good reasons why we will lay our crowns at His feet. Do you give glory to yourself?
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    I can and would quote those scriptures I am speaking but you would consider it childish. Darned if I do and darned if I don't, I guess. Of course we must be born of the Spirit to understand scripture. Yes. But I don't agree we can never lose our salvation when scripture warns and exhorts and...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Where do I ever defend the flesh Epi? I have as much understanding of the kingdom of God as the Lord has seen fit to give me thus far......it's in spirit and by faith. It's the "world to come", which powers we can taste of and walk in now in this life. It's here now at hand, but also yet to come.
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    The entrance of the word gives light sister. It dispels the darkness of ignorance and washes us clean....after having the bath we still need to have our feet washed regularly. Discussing things is not unloving. Again, you have no problem at all with Epi's abhorrent behaviour, which is not...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Like the subject of fear, I believe this to be kind of a two-sided coin. Scripture says He HAS sanctified and perfected us..........but now it's a question that we need to apprehend and walk in these truths. All things HAVE been put under His feet, but we do not yet SEE everything put under...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Sister I know there are people who are unspiritual and idolize a carnal minded approach to the bible etc....I've run up against that at times, but you are picking on the wrong folks here. I'm not disparaging scholarship per se, we need to ascertain the accuracy of translations and it's very...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    I have no idea where Epi is with the Lord, as the Lord hasn't seen fit to show me exactly. I only discuss and go by what he says and teaches.....and how he behaves......which I don't think you have been reading his threads long enough to know much about what he says and teaches. Some things he...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Me, and I'm sure some others, are passing your posts by because they are being presented as an ARGUMENT being pitted against holy writ, not because we disagree in principle with the Spirit and spirituality, or don't already know and understand and experience these things. God had the scriptures...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Amen! Preach it brother! That is the exactly what the Lord addresses about the false shepherds in Ezekiel, amen. And the Lord says somewhere that he will rescue the sheep out of the captivity and mouths of the wolves/false shepherds (out from under their spell and thrall). Babylon is...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Amen brother......the devil is trying hard to stamp out the truth....truth is thrown to the ground - using the lure of money, ambition, validation etc. That is the flesh hungry and hunting as a wolf and needs to be crucified in all of us. We sure do need to know the scriptures and it can take...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Why is it that you have no problem at all with Epi's horrendous ad hominem bullying of those who disagree with any part of his teachings? It's the worst I think I've ever seen.
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Missed my point as usual, or pretending to. We've gone over this ground before, but for one thing you dont' seem to grasp that the "realism" you boast in is not the whole story. "All things have been put under the feet of Christ, but we do not yet see all things put under His feet." Truly I...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Sister...why do keep pitting the bible against the one whose word it is? If you love God you will love every word that proceeds from His mouth.....not argue against it.
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    I think most of us here understand that believing in Christ with faith not of our own is just the beginning of the journey........but we affirm and agree with the word of God that it IS a necessary beginning for salvation. There is not a soul of us here who is perfect and who doesn't still have...
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    Walk by faith, not by sight...........is an apostolic teaching, no? Do you comprehend the depth of that?
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    Work out your own Salvation?

    It's speaking to all of us, the whole born again church, as does all of scripture.