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You're saying that the Ten Commandments are something different from what people have always known they were, which is a preposterous thing to expect rational people to believe. Your hobby horse is just fringe weirdness. Sorry, but it's true and arrogant persistence is going to get you nowhere...

Non-denominationalism, which has morphed into anti-denominationalism with the advent of the misinformation superhighway, is all the rage these days. More like live and let die, I'd say. o_O :hearteyes: .

He lives 600 miles from me, and I knew nothing of his trouble at the time it happened. I can't police my denomination, as much as it is demanded of me hereabouts. .

He was asking for considerably more than "the very smallest financial help possible," which is considerably less than what he got. He was not satisfied. I have heard of cases of abuse such as you're suggesting even within my own denomination. Again, is a belief system to be judged by its...

And in the native languages of more than a billion people the world over, the word for "Saturday" is some form of the word "Sabbath." (Sorry, the forum software didn't seem to like me putting two images in one post. :) ) :hearteyes: .

But it was God who gave numbers to the days of the week and the US Naval Observatory assures that the weekly cycle has never been broken, which stands to reason, largely because there is no reason in the heavens for its existence. :hearteyes: .

Zig, forgive me, but you seem to be intent on claiming that the Sabbath day is anything and everything except what it actually is. There's not a word in this post that says Jesus is God's Sabbath until the end—where you simply declare that He is. I don't understand it. I just don't understand...

I knew a guy (in fact he's a regular at the other big forum) who admitted to me on the public part of the forum, no less, that he left the church because his business failed and he actually expected the church to bail him out because of all the tithe and "work" he'd put in. Not realizing, of...

That's pretty charitable of you, old chum. Just be aware that Adventism has its fringe elements and I think it was Socrates who said that no belief system should be judged by its abuse. ;) (which is what characters like Mosko are all about) :hearteyes: .

Well, I often lose track of which thread I'm in. Sorry :( Wait, you're trying to throw me off track. What if a fella had nothing but the the Bible, huh? Hey, and don't tell me it doesn't happen. If I've heard one of those stories I've heard a hundred. Yeah, two can play that game. :p I would...

So requoting is really cool 'cause ya don't have to say "I agree, but..." (Wait... I just did.) So, yeah, but having a Bible in hand would seem to render a body a little more accountable for their intents and purposes, wouldn't ya think? :hearteyes: .

I don't disagree with any of this enough to argue with a pal about it. But I'm sure we both see this in terms of both time and space. (I'm hoping nobody pounces on me because I don't think all the people who were born in the wrong country are doomed.) From the sound of that last comment, I'm...

Well, okay, Pal :cool: , re: the gem and all (my understanding is that the faith of God was of oral tradition mostly before Moses), but I've seen this question from you before and it still doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me. o_O :hearteyes: .

That's very edifying. And typical. .

AMEN, MG! Which effectively dissolves assurance of God's determination to save us. It's so ironic that what is supposed to give assurance of salvation actually gives none at all. If I know that I could be deceived into thinking I am irrevocably saved once and for all and later return to a...

This question really puzzles me. I don't think King James managed to get the Bible into the hands of every believer who wanted one. The Catholic church had the Bible and forbade the common people from having it. But Protestants (before they were called such) had portions of Scripture and...

For the record, I think He meant the Torah. But we're no longer communicating in any meaningful way. It is very unpleasant to me. You are entitled to your abstract view of divine law. I am entitled to disagree. .

Well, I think you know full well what I was asking for and that you can't produce such a document, but if you want to use THE DOCUMENT OF DOCUMENTS, then making a refutation of your claims is just that much easier: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+4%3A15&version=NKJV...

Who are "the Saturday peoples?" And where's the proof that they "demand" things of anyone? I don't care if people demand things of me on Internet forums because they can't make me do anything and if I don't want to hear their demands I can put them on the ignore list or log off because I put...

I have no idea what most of this means. A lot of it seems like rhetoric. And, frankly, some of it seems vain. .