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  1. Pierac

    23 minutes in hell

    Sorry, but the wages of sin is Death.... not eternal torment! That's Greek philosophy borrowed by the Roman Church to make you pay cash to get out of Hell! Look at History! Do you believe Paul... 1Ti 4:10 For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living...
  2. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    NO... Just do you really think the bible translations you read actually says ... God has fixed the world in your heart??? I'm amazed how little people know that the bible they read is not actually the word of GOD... But what translators translate... Like any thing in life they get it wrong...
  3. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Rom 8:20 You could say the same for Pharaoh! DID Pharaoh hardened his heart... or did God? Your not seeing the plan for the human race! Rom 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope Does God's creation begin after Adam...
  4. Pierac

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    I don't want you to be polite... I want you to show me how I'm wrong in my understanding of Psa 110:1 ! Read it again... and then show me!! Stop trying to make people feel better... show us the truth! One of ius s wrong... I believe it's you! Show/teach me differently!!! Paul
  5. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Really... God has fixed the world in your heart??? Read my post again. Paul
  6. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Wow... You don't read very well.. διά dia; a prim. prep.; through, on account of, Jesus is the center of Gods plan for humanity. Come on... God's plan has been written for thousands of years... Jesus is the second Adam... The first Adam was made to fail, the second Adam was not! Rom 8:20...
  7. Pierac

    23 minutes in hell

    And yet.... We read... (Ecc 12:7) and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit (Breath rûaḥ) returns to God who gave it. (Psa 146:4) His spirit departs, he returns to the earth; In that very day his thoughts perish. Psalms 104:29 -30: "When you take away their breath (ruah)...
  8. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    The answer is in the word “by ” better known in the Greek as “Dia” G1223 διά dia; a prim. prep.; through, on account of, because of: - account (4), after (2), afterward (1), always *(2), because (111), between *(1), briefly *(1), charge *(1), constantly (1), continually *(6), during (1)...
  9. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    No... It is you... whom are taking Colossians 1:15 out of context... The word “first-born” comes to the New Testament with a rich Hebrew heritage. The Hebrews had a custom of conferring special birthright privileges on their oldest sons. The eldest son of a father would receive the double...
  10. Pierac

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    Psalms 110:1 Psa 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet." Psalms 110:1 is a unusual verse. It is referred to in the New Testament 23 times and is thus quoted much more often than any other verse from the...
  11. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Really ... What Bible are you reading??? You would do well to study the Greek word "forever" in Luke.... AION That very greek word is used as follows.... “Let us look at how the word aion is used in a number of passages. About 37 times in the New Testament it is rendered "world," twice as...
  12. Pierac

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    So exactly what did you mean??? You fully embraced the Kinotic docterine... Yet now claim it was a mistake... because I educated you on what it was actually saying... In the future... Don't follow the teaching of Men... (Ie. the Kinotic docterine) then claim to be a independent scholar!!! You...
  13. Pierac

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Sorry but I cannot quote your Watchtower... That's between you and your church beliefs.... " as to a militant, hateful, and absolutely graceless way...." I'm in good company... In Hebrew grammar, the position of emphasis is usually the beginning of the clause. Unfortunately, our English...
  14. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Again spoken as a Child.... "He was in the beginning with God" Sorry PinSeeker but God has no beginning!!! Let that sink in!!! Christ the First-born of all the creation The word “first-born” comes to the New Testament with a rich Hebrew heritage. The Hebrews had a custom of conferring special...
  15. Pierac

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    DEFINITION OF THE COUNCIL OF CHALCEDON (451 AD) Therefore, following the holy fathers, we all with one accord teach men to acknowledge one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, at once complete in Godhead and complete in manhood, truly God and truly man, consisting also of a reasonable soul...
  16. Pierac

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Silly Child... Jesus is the second Adam! Not God in the flesh... can't you read your own scripture??? 1Co 15:45 So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. Both are Adams, and neither are God!!! Joh 8:42 Jesus said to them...
  17. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Yet... Jeus knew the creator of the universe... Mat 19:4 He answered, "Have you not read that he (God) who created them from the beginning made them male and female, Remember Jesus has a God… "Blessed be God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:3). Yet for us there is but one God...
  18. Pierac

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Glad we agree! Adam is the son of God too... Luk 3:38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. According to Luke Adam is now the 4th member of Godhead with your view of scripture!! Your traditions of men trap you! Stop following what your told to believe! Paul
  19. Pierac

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Great... I already showed you that scripture... but what is for you to post that scripture that says... God the son! But you can't! You need to seek why! Why can you not find what you are taught and believe ... Why is what your taught... is not in scripture! Because it is the traditions of...
  20. Pierac

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Perhaps you should read it again.... Elohim has been a very confusing word for many people. The word elohim is used various ways in Scripture. It is not only used to describe the Almighty, but also individual pagan gods and even mighty human beings. Elohim may be translated as God, god...