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  1. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    No-one perfectly abides by the law. Every man has sinned and comes short of the glory of God. No, no-one is spiritually alive prior to them turning to Jesus. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. As the song "On Christ the solid rock I stand" lyrics say - "Our hope is...
  2. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    I don't understand what you are saying. People who are spiritually dead are born again (spiritually) when they receive Jesus as their savior, by His death and resurrection as atonement for their sins.
  3. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    @grafted branch Please look at my chart. The shaded in grey area to the right is the little season of Satan's final deception.
  4. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Here is what the text says... Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, So the thousand years, the millennium, will be finished. Then Satan will be loosed out of the bottomless pit prison to deceive the nations to make an attack on the...
  5. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Participation in the threads is voluntary. The site rules for posters in the forums are... https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/christianity-board-forum-rules.11388/
  6. Douggg

    Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

    @Spiritual Israelite , are you an Amillennialist ?
  7. Douggg

    Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

    No, Zechariah 14:3-5 takes place at Jesus's return to the present earth. No one is being raptured in those verses. @Truth7t7 you are an Amillennialist. So that is the reason for your additions to what is actually in Zechariah 14:3-5.
  8. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    The dead in Christ are resurrected to eternal life. Not destroyed.
  9. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    CTK, no wicked are resurrected to take part in Satan's final deception of the nations rebellion. There will not be two resurrections of the wicked. The persons who take part in the final rebellion of the nations will be born during the millennium. CTK, those resurrected for the Great...
  10. Douggg

    Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

    Yes, you have stated my position correctly. Thanks. The Gog/Magog event > then 7 years > then Armageddon > Jesus having returned. The left half of the chart below. It's an easy timeline chart to read. The Gog/Magog event should be happening soon.
  11. Douggg

    Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

    No, Israel is not the beast. Israel has to have been restored as a nation for the parable of the fig tree to be fulfilled. The parable of the fig tree generation began in 1967 when the Jews regained control of Jerusalem. Matthew 24:31 is not the rapture/resurrection event. It is the...
  12. Douggg

    Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

    Revelation 37 the valley of dry bones vision was a visual dramatization involving Ezekiel's participation (verses 7,10, 11) to make the prophetic point about how God was going to reunite the northern and southern kingdoms (of Israel) back into one kingdom, verse 15-28. The vision, as far as...
  13. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    My charts are geared mostly for timelines. Maps, I usually do a google search to get information.
  14. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    While I was doing a google image search on Moab, I saw a bible map that gave some more information the Amon River to the north and the Zered River to the south as being the boundaries for the Sidon (the land of the Ammonites) to the north and Edom (the land of the Edomites) to the south. This...
  15. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    I think Moab is a geographic location, yes. And the ancient inhabitants who had certain qualities that God disliked very much were called "Moabites". https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=moabites I think Moab, the location, in the latter days will be repopulated with a...
  16. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    @grafted branch When I read Jeremiah 48 regarding Moab, the impression I get is that in ancient times the area of Moab had a sizeable population - but ended up being defeated and its citizens taken away from the region to never return as being a nation anymore. I think that part of Jordan is...
  17. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Not having studied the issue to any extent, I think a couple of factors... 1. the ancient geographic location of Moab. I looked at bible maps by others on an internet search and Moab seems to be an area east of the Dead Sea. 2. who occupies that location today. 3. are they anti-Israel ...
  18. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    My chart does not feature Moab. The left side of the chart indicates the Gog/Magog event and what takes place afterward, i.e. the 7 years, the Armageddon event, Jesus's return. The chart is actually fairly simple to read, but puts every thing in its proper place. The right side is about the...
  19. Douggg

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    You are claiming that Ezekiel 32 is the Ezekiel 38-39 attack on Israel. But Israel is not mentioned anywhere in the text of Ezekiel 32.
  20. Douggg

    Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

    Ezekiel 38-39, Gog and Magog are a group of nations that make a collective attack on Israel. Ezekiel 32 is not describing an attack on Israel anywhere in that chapter.