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Could be but I see them as beg of judgement on Jerusalem by the Romans

Yes 4,5 & 6 follow each other

Glad to hear God is good

So did Arnie LOL Praying for a good recovery and improvement for you

You need to look at the rest of the message of the bible to get the proper interpretation. Ask yourself is that Jesus character? Jesus is the prince of peace and came to heal and restore and bring true inner peace. What Jesus is saying is that because of Him and His message families will be...

They refer to the 4 horses in Zechariah If you line up the seals to Matthew 24 you will see the same events. I believe it was the time leading up to 70 AD Jesus doesn’t make people kill each other...

I believe that it was famine the Jews were arrogant and burned their own food stock during the Roman siege to show the Roman’s that they weren’t afraid of them because God would save them.

Yes there is when the text says Jesus was taken up to heaven and His throne. You can have a different interpretation of the text but you can’t say that there is nothing in the text indicate it. Yes I agree of course Jesus had power to cast out demons before the cross I just believe that they...

Your welcome, I believe revelation 12 is an short overview of revelation itself showing a transition from the old covenant to the new covenant from ethnic Israel to spiritual Israel Revelation 6 lines up with Matthew 24

Yes of course I believe and know all of this I just don’t believe that the Old Testament saints are the ones under the altar. One thing though is that you are wrong in the timing of when satan was cast to the earth Jesus Himself confirms that it was well after His birth and tells us when it...

Sure thanks for asking I actually have a verse by verse study of revelation 12 I believe they are separate events Revelation chapter 12:4 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so...

Revelation 12 11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. Revelation 6 9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of...

Yes I know all of that and agree Jesus before the first advent was also known as the son of man. I just don’t agree that these were the faithful before the cross but the faithful who were martyred between the time of the cross and the date that revelation was written. They were killed because...

Did you read post #51? I showed that John called Jesus the word of God, this very same John who wrote both his gospel and Revelation. Do you notice that your view is only assuming that their testimony wasn't about Jeus without any bases? John called Jesus the word of God and these souls are...

Well we need to look at when Revelation was written was it written 30 to 40 years before 70AD or just a few years before 70AD if it was written in the mid 60's of the first century? Remember that apostate Israel were the first to persecute the church and they were judged for it in 70AD. We...

Revelation 6 9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth...

Well how are you Dave? Of course I remember you and I could never hate you Lol even though you were frustrating at times I always respectEd you Now of course we are all responsible for Jesus death there is a difference in being responsible because of sin and actually rejecting Him and calling...

Because it was a question asked in the past by the saints killed by apostate Israel in the first century. The answer was to wait a little while when Israel was judged in 70AD

Yes I totally agree and that is my belief, even gentile Christians are spiritual Israel

Hi Randy how have you been? I wasn't assuming that at all I was saying only as a man, my point was that they didn't realize that the Messiah was also God