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  1. ProDeo

    Work out your own Salvation?

    Oh, I think you are a very fine Christian Rita :wavinghand - Ed (that's me)
  2. ProDeo

    Work out your own Salvation?

    Then perhaps you will be so kind to show us some of the examples what is not true in the Bible.
  3. ProDeo

    Work out your own Salvation?

    And yet through the (ahem) fallible Scriptures you believe you are born again. Secondly, in about every post you quote large portions of (ahem) fallible Scripture to make your point.
  4. ProDeo

    Apokatastasis in the early church

    Jesus last words (My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?) was also His last sermon as He quoted from Psalm 22 from David. Ps 22:1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Ps 22:14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my...
  5. ProDeo

    Apokatastasis in the early church

    Correct. Aionios on the other hand - Joh 3:16 - for God did so love the world, that His Son--the only begotten--He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during. [ YLT ] Whoops....
  6. ProDeo

    Apokatastasis in the early church

    True that.
  7. ProDeo

    Apokatastasis in the early church

    Well, as stated earlier I am not into Universalism. But I find the topic interesting enough to study for the following observations - [1]. It gives God what He always wanted, per 1 Tim 2:4, John 3:17 etc. Filipp 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is...
  8. ProDeo

    Apokatastasis in the early church

    You might do some research on Clement of Rome likely the one in Filip 4:3 (thus living in the first century) and according the wiki allegedly hinted to universalism.
  9. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Spot on. I am intrigued with verse 6 and what it means. Efez 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, Efez 2:5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ— by grace you have been saved— Efez 2:6 and raised us up with...
  10. ProDeo

    Universalism is a dangerous doctrine

    Waded through this thread, amazing diversity in opinions.
  11. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    That's an excellent question. I assume (emphasis added) although God can see the future and how everything plays out, it still needs to happen.
  12. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Well, the thread is about the elect, the ones written in the book of life before the creation of the world, God knew everything in advance. Calvinism teaches nobody knows if his name is in the book of life, hence he/she will have to live in fear his/her whole life where he/she will end up, in...
  13. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    sml Thus? sml Before creation my name was already in the book of life, I believe it because I am not a Calvinist. However if you are a Calvinist you can not know it, that is what Calvin taught. Maybe you are, maybe not.
  14. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Rev 13:8 says the names in the book of life were written before the creation of the world.
  15. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Sure, like I said, God foreknew, why is that so hard to understand. There are so many texts that speak of that, God knew everything on beforehand even before He created A&E, examples, the book of life in Rev 13:8, Efez 1:4, etc.
  16. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Calvin taught double predestination, which is the teaching that not only does God choose some to be saved, He also creates people who will be damned. There is no Scripture how God chooses, it's impossible to know if you belong to the elect, or not. That's not what Scripture teaches. Scripture...
  17. ProDeo

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Thus, you have to live your whole life in fear not knowing if you belong to God's elect?
  18. ProDeo

    Your spiritual rebirth story - An event, or a gradual experience?

    Paul would be on top sml Knocked down, blind for 3 days, wondering what did happen to him. That was what was needed to change the religious fanatic he was.
  19. ProDeo

    Satan is a liar

    The madness of the world with Jews is spiritual. OTOH, God has some unfinished business with Israel.
  20. ProDeo

    Satan is a liar

    What about the Balfour declaration which eventually led to Hitler's endlosing as a try to end the growing movement of Zionism to put Israel on the map again, of course the devil knew that Jesus would return on mount Olivet (Acts 1:12, Zach 14:4-5) and wanted to delay his downfall. This Jew...