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  1. quietthinker

    Who or What is Babylon the Great? How do God’s people come to be in her?

    He did in fact raise himself from the dead. John 10:18 'No one takes my life from me. I give my life of my own free will. I have the authority to give my life, and I have the authority to take my life back again' So where does that leave the other two? Maybe you can explain how God created...
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    The Loud Cry to Come Out of Babylon

    @Hobie What is it that is attributed to God in particular views that does not belong to him? 1.... God kills (even his Son) 2.... God requires blood sacrifice to appease his wrath and before he will forgive. 3.... Payback from God is coming 4.... God hates certain people 5.... Our poor...
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    The Loud Cry to Come Out of Babylon

    Here is a something to consider Hobie. It is in illustration form. Here is the text I am bouncing off..... 'Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird'. When someone insists and...
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    To reiterate.... For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us' 2 Corinthians 1:20 Why do you not see it helpful to understand forthcoming events? Perhaps I could ask, how do you see/ understand the above 2 Corinthians 1:20?
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    We could go on disputing Keraz but I don't see any point. Why don't I see any point? Firstly because the fulcrum or the core from which your theories radiate are not congruent with Jesus or the character of God, and secondly, you are intent on justifying your view with no consideration of how...
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    Malachi the Prophet

    Keraz, are you now using the utterances of Rabbi's and Scientists to underpin your theories. Wasn't it your appeal to 'biblical truth' elsewhere, as your authority? You also stated in another post that you didn't know what I believed. Why not ask pertinent and relevant questions .....you might...
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    Just as you are sure of the underlined above, so others are also sure. What do you say to that? I would ask, do you know why you are sure? .....and this is what Daniel 12:10 says 'Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall...
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    Revelation 16:19 The great city was divided into 3 parts...

    The lack of value in not understanding the Gospel is not seen, appreciated or valued by those who do not understand. The loss of eternal life for those who believe the soul is immortal is a moot point. An example might be those who commit suicide. Life has become sufficiently painful for them...
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    Your statement here (underlined) indicates you haven't really read my post (#17) let alone understood it.
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    Who or What is Babylon the Great? How do God’s people come to be in her?

    Proving anything relating to this stuff in the face of resistance Ronald, doesn't give understanding . The point of the prophecies is so God's people can track events for their encouragement. Understand as it is intended and encouragement and hope are underpinned. They are not given so that we...
  11. quietthinker

    Revelation 16:19 The great city was divided into 3 parts...

    These things are metaphor David. It is HOW we understand the metaphors that matters. Just as you use metaphors in your every day speech to convey ideas, ideas from the basic to the complex, so the scripture does also. Of course not every utterance is metaphor.
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    Ohhh Keraz, Your use of the term 'proper biblical support' is a straw man. Why?, because anyone who cobbles scriptures in any context will and does claim 'proper biblical support'. They, as do you, take things out of their intended context, then proudly parade their structure and call it...
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    Who or What is Babylon the Great? How do God’s people come to be in her?

    1 -2. Those who peddle Babylon's ideology (individuals and systems) 3. A literary device to tell you the ideology/ system permeates everything. 4. 'Religions' merchants (peddlers) get fat (metaphor) .....one example, look at the Vatican (that system) Fat on what? the bones of the people from...
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    Who or What is Babylon the Great? How do God’s people come to be in her?

    'The Battle' if we might name it that, is between the ideology of Satan and those under his persuasion and those who are aligned with God and his character. 'Babylon' is the metaphor used for the former and 'Jerusalem' for the later. It is an ideological battle spilling over into physical...
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    Revelation 16:19 The great city was divided into 3 parts...

    David, do you have an unbroken connection between what you are saying and the Gospel Message? I ask because Revelation is the revealing of Jesus Christ. It tells us this at the outset of the book. The conflicts are to do with the ideology of Satan and the revealing of God in Jesus (the Gospel)...
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    Revelation 16:19 The great city was divided into 3 parts...

    Understand the use of metaphor, understand the use of literary devices and one gets closer to the point Misunderstand these 'devices' and one can make apples out of pig poo....and spin off in any imagined direction one can conjure. Look at the pagan religions as an example. Every corner of the...
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    Revelation 16:19 The great city was divided into 3 parts...

    No hey?....I would say you don't know how to identify her. ....further, if identification is not known then by default the mark on the head and hand is in place, even the right hand ....and will not be recognised. That's why many have it....particularly the religious. Why the 'religious' in...
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    Revelation 16:19 The great city was divided into 3 parts...

    She is here, right under your nose!
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    Hello from Texas

    hello Stephan