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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Doctrinolatry - tribalism and division in the Body of Christ

    Its ok Some of us already have the answer. And when we found it, we saw what appeared to be a contradiction come into view as bing unified, and the perfect word of God. Did you really ask if God can make sense of the truth? I do hope I read you wrong.
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Doctrinolatry - tribalism and division in the Body of Christ

    If I remember right, He ws created to guard the throne room of God. He was put in a high position of power. And this power went to his head. And instead of chosing to love like God. He chose to rebel and claim he was better than or equal to God.. I do not know who is communicating with you. But...
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    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    You want to put doubt in the word of God for yourself feel free. There is no contradiction God told Israel to do it. As a nation. As part of the mosaic covenant. David wrote the truth, concerning his sin, Sacrifice and burnt offering you did not desire. God wanted david to repent. God knew...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    If trump wins, will swing states approve the vote.

    this has been my fear. That they will use a trump victory to gain power. And claim they must to save us..
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    The curious case of John 5:4

    Salvation by grace through faith is not doctrine, it is the gospel of Christ. And it will save us Well no one I know or no church I have ever visited says we can be a christ and not expect any change in our loves. A person who truly repented understands their sinful nature. They would expect...
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    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    Actually in the book of the law. god did require it. If they were to recieve blessings as his children. You’re right, he did not require it for salvation. But your in error saying he did not require it from them as a people. It was part of his covenant with them And? Your tryign to insert...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    The curious case of John 5:4

    1. There is no such things as faith without works. A dead faith is lifeless. It is not faith at all. A lifeless faith can not saved, hence it will never work. So your saying WORKS WITH FAITH SAVES? Well does this then not make it a works based salvation? are you not working to earn your...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    The curious case of John 5:4

    please explain so what about the Bible. Do you trust the Bible? I know you say their are contradictions, is this why you go to creeds?) Does it though? Is not a true christian more than just that? the three groups that you said support it. Are they all true christians? You can not just read...
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    The curious case of John 5:4

    When it comes to world histroy. I have to trust the people who wrote history. But your probably right, I can nto know for sure when it comes to Christianity, I trust what is in the inspired word. I do not trust anything outside of the word. i can use it, study it, see if it lines up with...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    The curious case of John 5:4

    I trust what is written in Matthe through revelations. To me that is church history I do not trust anything written after this. No one should You were there? You know this to be a fact. Or you believe it because someone who claims to be a church father told you this? and even if he was. What...
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    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    Yes, But God still demanded sacrifice according to the law so later when he said he hated them did he contradict himself. Like you seem to me insinuating, or was their a reason he hated them (because of their sin Of rejecting him and following false gods)
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    The curious case of John 5:4

    If your doing work to save yourself is this not a works based righteousness? and this does differ than works which are a result of your salvation.. can you at least agree there are differences?
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    The curious case of John 5:4

    this difference is what you trust. A christian is someone who follows jesus, that is actually what the word means Now is every Christian a child of God. Thats where the difference comes in. What makes me a christian? Or a true christian? to be a christian is just to claim you follow christ...
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    The curious case of John 5:4

    Thats why going to history is so dangerous. 1. it assumes what we have in writing today concerning history was based on facts. 2. it assumes that what we have in writting was actually when the true early church believed. thats far to many assumptions to me. The jews, when they went after...
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    THE TRANSGENDERISM OF CHRISTIANITY

    Ok. What do you consider righteousness to be? What is that mark. How good is good enough. Why will you not answer? I could care less about that. I did not ask about this. I asked about the mark of God which states we all have sinned. What is that mark? Which is what? can you say it. And how...
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    THE TRANSGENDERISM OF CHRISTIANITY

    But paul spoke present tense. He said he at the moment of writing struggled between the flesh and spirit John did the same thing, If we say if we say we (right here and right now) have no sin, we are decieved Are you decieved?
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    The curious case of John 5:4

    The NT should be the standard. Not what men write correct? I disagree that I have to agree with that in order to be called a christian. It does not make me a christian because I agree with some creed, thats my point of contention Why should we hold this above the Bible? again, I disagree...
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    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    Did he reject the sacrifices during their period of blessing under King David? They were not always in sin.. But yes, they did rebel.
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    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    We are not arguing who. We are discussing when I gave you the context and time period of when Amos wrote and what he was writting about.
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    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    Amos 1: 1 The words of Amos, who was among the sheepbreeders of Tekoa, which he saw concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah king of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel, two years before the earthquake. Amos 5: Hear this word which I take up against you, a...